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The wonderful thing about SLD is that you don't have to actually restrict yourself.  There has never been a point during the last 6 months where I felt like I was being restricted in what I could eat.  I have been eating healthier, for sure, but that's a side effect of the AS for me, not because I'm trying to avoid "bad" foods.  And there are plenty of times when I eat the same old crap I always used to eat, just much much much less of it! -- goblyn
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No calorie counting vegetarian diet--Fat Smash diet
« on: July 04, 2009, 12:44:01 AM »

Here is a vegetarian diet (atleast in phase 1) that does not involve calorie counting, thought I should share:

Fat Smash Diet
Definition
The fat smash diet is a 90-day, four-phase weight-loss program that is designed to ‘smash’ bad habits and make permanent lifestyle changes in eating and physical activity.
Origins
Dr. Ian Smith, M.D., developed the fat smash diet plan after he became weight-loss consultant and judge for the VH1 hit television program Celebrity Fit Club. The plan was originally designed for celebrities trying to lose weight on the show. Smith’ bestselling book, The Fat Smash Diet: The Last Diet You’ll Ever Need, was published in 2006. In April of 2007 Smith published the Extreme Fat Smash Diet, an alternative program for people wanting to lose weight in a short period of time.
Description
Principles
According to Smith, the fat smash diet plan is designed to ‘rewire’ the body and its relationship to food and physical activity. It is based on lifestyle changes that will enable people to maintain their weight once they have achieved their weight-loss goals. The aim of the plan is to eliminate bad habits, while enjoying food without overindulging. The fat smash diet is very flexible and utilizes a wide variety of healthy everyday foods, with the emphasis on whole grains, fresh produce, lean meat, fish, poultry, and healthy fats. Smith’ book includes more than 50 quick and simple recipes. Although the diet does not involve calorie counting, quantities are suggested as a guide for keeping portions small.
The major principles behind the fat smash diet plan are:
•   eating four-five small meals or large snacks daily, no more than three-four hours apart, with the last meal at least one and one-half hours before bedtime
•   establishing a regular eating schedule to avoid hunger pangs
•   eating small portions—just enough to feel full
•   including fresh fruits and vegetables with meals
•   eating ‘good’ carbohydrates and avoiding ‘bad’ carbohydrates
•   eating foods raw, baked, steamed, or grilled
•   a large exercise component, preferably with a partner
•   avoidance of stress
The rules for success on the fat smash diet are:
•   not overeating
•   always eating fruits and vegetables, regardless of the diet stage
•   not eating fried foods
•   not skipping meals
•   continuing the exercise regimen
•   maintaining emotional and mental focus
Before beginning the fat smash plan dieters are instructed to:
•   record their pre-diet weight
•   determine their body mass index (BMI)
•   take photographs of themselves
The pyramid
The fat smash diet is constructed as a pyramid, with each of the four phases building on the previous phases:
•   Phase 1 is the nine-day detoxification, ‘detox,’ stage to rid the body of impurities.
•   Phase 2 is the three-week foundation stage
•   Phase 3 is the four-week construction stage
•   Phase 4 is the lifelong temple stage
The fat smash diet is designed to allow for mistakes. Dieters who overindulge or eat a prohibited food can return to phase 1 for about a week and then pick up the diet at the phase where they left off.
PHASE 1—DETOXIFICATION The 9-day natural detoxification stage is not a fasting diet. Rather it is a vegetarian diet consisting primarily of fruits and vegetables, with some dairy and egg whites allowed. There are no absolute restrictions on how much to eat. The diet is designed to rid the body of toxins from processed foods and the environment, including the elimination of caffeine and alcohol, to make it easier to lose weight. Phase 1 includes 30 minutes of aerobic exercise.
KEY TERMS
Anaerobic exercise—Brief, strength-based activity, such as sprinting or weight training, in which anaerobic (without oxygen) metabolism occurs in the muscles.
Body mass index—BMI, a measure of body fat determined from the ratio of one’ weight in kg to the square of one’ height in meters; the BMI from weight in lb and height in inches is determined from tables; an adult BMI of 25—29.9 is considered overweight and 30 or above indicates obesity.
Detoxification—Detox; cleansing; to remove toxins or poisons from the body.
Fiber—Roughage; a complex mixture found in plant foods that includes the carbohydrates cellulose, hemicellulose, gum, mucilages, and pectins, as well as lignin.
Glycemic index—GI; a measure of the rate at which an ingested carbohydrate raises the glucose level in the blood.
five times per week, with a suggested 20-25-minute walk after dinner to increase the metabolism
Foods allowed during phase 1 include:
•   all fresh fruits in any quantity
•   all vegetables in any quantity, except white or red potatoes and avocados; vegetables should be raw or lightly cooked (steamed or grilled)
•   one cup daily of fresh-squeezed—not canned—fruit or vegetable juice
•   one cup daily of cooked unsweetened oatmeal, grits, farina, or cream of wheat
•   up to four egg whites daily
•   any dried beans such as lentils or chickpeas
•   2 cups daily of cooked brown rice (my suggestion: add some lentils)
•   tofu
•   a maxiumum of two tablespoons per day of tahini (sesame paste)
•   2 cups daily of low-fat or nonfat milk or soy milk
•   6 oz (170 g) of low-fat yogurt, maximum of 12 oz (340 g) daily
•   a maximum of two pickles per day
•   one-two teaspoons of low-fat virgin olive oil for grilling vegetables
•   low-fat dressing, no more than three tablespoons per salad
•   herbs and spices
•   hot-air popcorn without butter or margarine
•   a maximum of two tablespoons per day of artificial sweetener
•   2 cups daily of unsweetened decaffeinated herbal or green tea
•   unlimited water.
Foods prohibited during phase 1 include:
•   meat
•   bread
•   cheese, including soy cheese
•   fried food
•   nuts
•   fast food
•   desserts
•   soda
•   coffee
•   alcohol
Canned foods should be rinsed thoroughly to remove excess salt.
Although phase 1 lasts only nine days, dieters can choose to stay with phase 1 for one to two extra weeks or longer.

•  Eat raw, steamed or grilled food. Your menu will include:

1.   Unlimited:
1.   Fruit.
2.   Vegetables.
3.   Chickpeas.
4.   Lentils.
5.   Tofu.
6.   Beans.

2.   Limited:
1.   Brown rice.
2.   Low-fat or fat-free milk.
3.   Oatmeal.
4.   Low-fat yogurt.
5.   Olive oil. --One to two teaspoons of olive oil per day.
6.   Egg whites.
7.   Herbal tea.

•  Drink plenty of water.

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Re: No calorie counting vegetarian diet--Fat Smash diet
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2009, 10:04:09 AM »

very interesting, thanks for posting this. can the diet be found online? (for the next phases).
all good things i like on phase 1. unfortunalety i have to limit beans because they easily make me bloat and gas  Sad
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Re: No calorie counting vegetarian diet--Fat Smash diet
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2009, 10:15:24 AM »

I think there is a lot of info on this diet on the net...also, a lot of positive feedback...
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Re: No calorie counting vegetarian diet--Fat Smash diet
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2009, 11:26:51 AM »

It's grossly represented as a vegetarian diet, if the diet includes lean meat and fish...  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2009, 03:19:45 AM »

lean meat and fish HUH?? I didn't see that  Surprised
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Re: No calorie counting vegetarian diet--Fat Smash diet
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 11:56:42 AM »

I don't see any meat and fish either...

But at any rate, I hate the idea of "DETOX" diets. 

I feel like they:

1.  Rely on psychological scare tactics as in "the food you eat currently is filled with toxins and is horrible, you should only eat this food because everything else you could eat is just killing you" or "feel guilty about eating anything not in this diet plan, because all you are doing is poisoning your body"
2.  Stimulate massive amounts of water weight loss through either overloading you with natural diuretics (as in lemon juice, like that diet that Beyonce did recently to lose weight for a role) or restricting certain food types which causes your body to go nuts (for example, here we see a huge lack of fat).  This water weight loss immediately goes back on once you're done, which is another psychological form of torture as it leads you to believe that yes, the detox diet really did work and that eating other foods is terrible and wrong!
3.  Are impossible to follow for as long as they say you should do them, you can't survive that long on hardly any fat, I'm sure at the very least within a few days of the diet you'd be dying to eat something not on the diet and then go off the diet.  I mean, 9 days of any serious restrictions like that is super tough, I don't even know if I could do one of the 48 hour detox diets you read about!  So you don't follow the diet to a T and then when you eventually fail, you'll beat yourself up and think you're a horrible person with no hope of ever losing weight because you can't stick to a simple eating plan.
4.  Lead to eating disorders due to all this psychological torture.  Your body does need fat to survive after all!

That's just my two cents.  I just think anyone should be really careful about ANY diet that limits fat intake this much.  That's a terrific way to destroy your gallbladder!
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 12:43:45 PM »

I eat super-clean and really healthy stuff, all vegan whole foods ....... and I still need to count calories. TAANSTAFL!
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 07:55:28 PM »

According to Smith, the fat smash diet plan is designed to ‘rewire’ the body and its relationship to food and physical activity. It is based on lifestyle changes that will enable people to maintain their weight once they have achieved their weight-loss goals. The aim of the plan is to eliminate bad habits, while enjoying food without overindulging. The fat smash diet is very flexible and utilizes a wide variety of healthy everyday foods, with the emphasis on whole grains, fresh produce, lean meat, fish, poultry, and healthy fats. Smith’ book includes more than 50 quick and simple recipes. Although the diet does not involve calorie counting, quantities are suggested as a guide for keeping portions small.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 11:14:39 PM »

I agree with goblyn's comments about the lack of fat. Vitamin A is fat-soluble, the brain is half fat, I found clear brain improvements when I ate more flaxseed oil, lots of people doing SLD report better skin. . . . there are many obvious reasons to think Americans are more likely to eat too little fat (and get too little of fat-soluble nutrients) than too much. You can read a vast amount along these lines at the Weston A Price Foundation website:

http://www.westonaprice.org/

What if we need certain fat-soluble nutrients and when we don't get enough of them in our diet we gain fat as a way of stocking up on those nutrients?
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2009, 04:47:18 AM »

I agree with goblyn's comments about the lack of fat. Vitamin A is fat-soluble, the brain is half fat, I found clear brain improvements when I ate more flaxseed oil, lots of people doing SLD report better skin. . . . there are many obvious reasons to think Americans are more likely to eat too little fat (and get too little of fat-soluble nutrients) than too much. You can read a vast amount along these lines at the Weston A Price Foundation website:

http://www.westonaprice.org/

What if we need certain fat-soluble nutrients and when we don't get enough of them in our diet we gain fat as a way of stocking up on those nutrients?

I think it has alot to do with the quality of fat in the diet.  Since the introduction of artificially hydrogenated fats, and their addition into so many processed foods, we have seen much poorer overall health.  Using good, pure, unadulterated fats as part of an overall clean diet is the best way to vibrant good health, in my opinion anyways. 

I keep going back to Michael Pollon's mantra, "Eat real food, not too much, mostly plants". For me, it sums up so much.
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Re: No calorie counting vegetarian diet--Fat Smash diet
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2009, 05:15:14 AM »

I Love Fat. I drink two tablespoons of it every day. Laughing
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2009, 05:38:45 AM »

I agree with goblyn's comments about the lack of fat. Vitamin A is fat-soluble, the brain is half fat, I found clear brain improvements when I ate more flaxseed oil, lots of people doing SLD report better skin. . . . there are many obvious reasons to think Americans are more likely to eat too little fat (and get too little of fat-soluble nutrients) than too much. You can read a vast amount along these lines at the Weston A Price Foundation website:

http://www.westonaprice.org/

What if we need certain fat-soluble nutrients and when we don't get enough of them in our diet we gain fat as a way of stocking up on those nutrients?

I think it has alot to do with the quality of fat in the diet.  Since the introduction of artificially hydrogenated fats, and their addition into so many processed foods, we have seen much poorer overall health.  Using good, pure, unadulterated fats as part of an overall clean diet is the best way to vibrant good health, in my opinion anyways. 

I keep going back to Michael Pollon's mantra, "Eat real food, not too much, mostly plants". For me, it sums up so much.

I think quality is an important point. It's a bit of a stretch to suggest that people are not consuming enough fat...most people meet (and exceed) the maximum recommended fat allowance (typically 50-60 g/day). However, their consumption tends to be too heavily weighted towards saturated and trans fats, while deficient in monounsaturated fats. It's also more unusual for people to be deficient in fat soluble vitamins because any excess fat soluble vitamins consumed at any time are stored in our body fat; water soluble vitamins are a bit more of a concern since the unused amounts are promptly removed from the body in our urine, so their intake must be frequent and regular.

I tend to eat lower fat versions of food when possible (particularly dairy and baked goods), and find it's quite easy to consume 50 g/day. Of course, my diet contains a lot of MUFAs (almonds, avocados, etc...).

Quality and balance are keys. Quality in the type of fat we eat, and understanding that it's fine to eat fat when it's the appropriate type.


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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2009, 06:36:58 AM »

Sometime I wonder.... My Grand Parents and other generations before them ate very well, they ate meat from the animal, butter, cream, cheese from there farms, they didn't eat process food, no chemical in there gardens, they where not expose to chemical as we are, the carbohydrates that they where eating were very healthy from brown flower etc and they all died younger then us. Razz  I also experienced myself the fact that when I am eating very very healthy, eating junk will make me a little sick. I get to be less resistant to junk food, to the poison. It might be that we need that little bit of poison ( junk food) to survive longer. Very Happy
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2009, 07:03:41 AM »

My grandparents all lived to be in their 80's or older (except the one who had congestive heart failure). This includes my grandparents who lived in the early 1800's, and were substinance farmers with 10+ kids and who barely could feed their families.

I have come to believe that the "recommended" daily fat allowance may not be enough for most people.  My skin made a 180° turn-around with no more cracked and bleeding fingers, and no more cracked and sore elbows, and no more cracked and chapped lips, after I started ingesting eloo in large quantities.  I have to bite my tongue when I see people with extremely dry skin, because such a simple thing would probably cure up most of their skin problems, and I know they would never do it, simply because the "experts" say OMG!!!  FAT IS BAD!!!!!!

Just like in the olden days, when the "experts" concluded that people would get better if they drained all of the "bad" blood out of them.
And that worked out so well for George Washington.
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George Washington asked to be bled heavily after he developed a throat infection from weather exposure. Almost 4 pounds (1.7 litres) of blood was withdrawn, much of it without a doctor's supervision, contributing to his death in 1799.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodletting
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2009, 07:23:31 AM »

Sometime I wonder.... My Grand Parents and other generations before them ate very well, they ate meat from the animal, butter, cream, cheese from there farms, they didn't eat process food, no chemical in there gardens, they where not expose to chemical as we are, the carbohydrates that they where eating were very healthy from brown flower etc and they all died younger then us. Razz  I also experienced myself the fact that when I am eating very very healthy, eating junk will make me a little sick. I get to be less resistant to junk food, to the poison. It might be that we need that little bit of poison ( junk food) to survive longer. Very Happy


It's unlikely that their diets improved their health relative to the current generation. The average life span has been increasing (although scientists are now predicting a decrease, due to lower activity levels and a change towards 'Western' diets).

The average life span in recent history is as follows:
Medieval England, 33
End of 19th Century, 37
Early 20th Century, 50
Circa 1940, 65
Current (in the Western world), 77-81

Granted, there are additional reasons to account for increased life span, including modern medicine and improved sanitation, but I would say they probably survived despite a diet high in animal fats (thanks to modern medical intervention), not because of it.






Karky,

It's true we can find an example of poor medicine and nutritional understanding in the past (and in the present, thanks to the internet and people's desire to believe what they like), but this is really not surprising. It's amazing that doctors were able to treat patients as successfully as they did in the 1800's, considering the limited understanding of cellular processes and lack of technology (diagnostic and operational) that they had to deal with.

We can only be relieved that our medicine relies less on blind assumption and beliefs now--we're far less likely to die due to well-intentioned but harmful medical intervention now. And as you note, when medical procedures are undertaken without doctor's supervision, the results are often less-than-desirable. He may have even lived had the true medical 'experts' (doctors) been in charge of his care, as they would have been less likely to allow excessive bloodletting. It's just speculation, of course...

Regarding fat intake, we are indeed meeting/exceeding the recommended amounts:
http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:dEqi0njZ6qAJ:www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publications/NutritionInsights/insight5.pdf+average+daily+fat+intake&hl=en&gl=us
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