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[Sanchiaza]

I'm holding thumbs for some strong AS for you this week 

[dinchen]

Well, folks, let me say that things are not going well at all two weeks into SLD. :-(

Sanchiaza, maybe you could hold your thumbs a little harder...? But thanks anyway!

I consumed around 2000 kcal on each of the last three days (oil included). I ate a lot of food that I should have left alone. I still cannot discern any appetite supression and upgraded myself to 4 TBSP of ELOO today.
It seems that my feeling hungry or having appetite has nothing at all to do with the flavour free calories, or that I want to eat certain things so badly that I mentally override any AS that I get.

I gained nearly 1 kg from my starting point and weighed in at 72,4 today - while even the starting point weight was high for my average! Anyways, I guess I'll drop some once I'm not that stuffed anymore, but still...

There were a lot of occasions to stuff myself at work in these past 3 days, and we were having friends visiting so we cooked extra delicious food...aber I couldn't simply stop after one plate yesterday evening, no, I had to have a second one like everybody else (of whom nobody is overweight and burns as little calories as I seem to do).

I had really hoped that SLD would help me to do just that - forgo the second helping, at least, or cut out the bread - but it feels like always, sometimes I can do it, most times I can't.

Maybe I should try noseclipping, I don't want to up my oil dose beyond 4 TBSP as I'm afraid of gaining weight due to the oil calories that seem not to help me supress my appetite...I hope that things will get better once I can bike again, but the snow seems to have no intention of retreating...Anyhow, I'll hang on to the diet! I'd really like to find out why it won't work for me as it seems to for nearly everybody!

Still hopeful, though.

[karky]

http://boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=1238.0

It can take longer than 10 days to start working.

[dinchen]

Karky, thanks for posting that link, I'd read these topics (also the ones linked there) before someday already, but it was good to review them.
So today went very well, I only had a normal lunch and a soup for dinner, which means I'm well under 1000 kcal even with 4 TBSP ELOO.

I'd like to think that AS is kicking in - maybe it is, maybe it was because of my bad conscience RE the last days, because I was in an all day working meeting and not bored a minute and because my boyfriend got sick, so I didn't prepare a nice dinner for us as usual on Fridays. Still, I fervently hope that it is AS that enables me to not eat carbs tonight and only a small dinner. We shall see.

It occurred to me that I should vary the time of taking the oil a bit to see which results are best. I'll start that soon.

Nadine (who'll go to bed soon in order to keep the today's good record).

[dinchen]

So, it's been over a week since my last post. For two days, I thought I could feel some AS, but unfortunately, it disappeared quickly - so quickly that it might have been my friend the placebo effect again. The last days have been very bad food wise, I've eaten a lot and wanted more and more and more, including the 4 TBSP ELOO. On one weekend day, I didn't even take the ELOO since there was no 2 hour window where I was not eating something :-(

Today, I went back from 4 to 3 TBSP, as there seems to be no difference AS-wise. The one day where I thought it had worked was the weekend before last, when I took the ELOO in the morning, went back to bed until 12, then got up and tried to eat two slices of bread and helf full after a half slice. It felt nice!

I'll keep on taking the oil, hoping for a belated onset of the AS. Since I didn't gain any weight so far, the SLD calories should not be a problem...

Nadine

[dinchen]

Oh no! I thought I had been doing okay at least, not eating that many calories even though more than planned and feeling rather full most of the time. Now I just realized that I had forgotten to add the oil calories (270 kcal a day) to my intake for the last 4 days!

Well, anyway, I've been cycling to work again on Friday and today, and the 3-3.5 hours a day should kill off some calories. I also nearly succeeded in not getting anything from the vending machine in the afternoon and when I did (due to stress), I decided not to eat anything at home and that was rather easy for me. So maybe, maybe it's the AS kicking in after nearly 5 weeks now...and hopefully I'll be better equipped to use it in the future!

[Seth Roberts]

You might try getting more flavor from foods without calories: tea or coffee (without cream or sugar) or chewing gum.
 
when I was first doing SLD, I found that many times I wanted to eat something I was perfectly happy if I consumed something with flavor but no calories.

[dinchen]

Thanks, Seth, that is a very good idea - I can't drink black coffee, but I've bought some special Lemon Tea that I love a while ago and never drank it yet, probably because I got used to drinking only water during the flavourfree 2 hours. I'll have a nice cup of it in the afternoon! And go on hoping that AS is starting right now for me :-)

[dinchen]

Current weight: 71.8

So for the last few days, I am beginning to believe that AS is finally kicking in.
I can't say for sure because I was also very busy at work and since I generally tend to eat a lot due to boredom, the being busy and successfully so may have helped with being able to eat little and sensible, too.

Also, I've been reading in the forums quite a bit and both all the success stories and thinking about the diet are a motivation in itself. I haven't lost any weight yet, but I'm confident that it'll start soon, as I'm able to bike to work again and that's 3 hours of burnt calories every working day :-) And with the AS (for which I'm still crossing my fingers to truly continue and not be a placebo effect of some kind), it simply must work!

My explanation for the onset of AS would be either that the canola oil that I started taking some days ago, because the other oil was empty, works better for me, or because it just took a month for my setpoint to lower - even though I dod not do a calorie restricted diet before and also didn't lose weight before starting SLD. I hope one of the explanation is true and that losing weight will start soon! I already had my boyfriend buy some presents for me that I may only have once I've lost the first two kg, which would make my weight in kg start with a 6 again.

The things are a great silicone piping bag for pastry and other baking-related stuff, so it's probably good that I can only try them out only once the diet starts working... ;-)

[toadkid]

For me, the AS was so gradual that for the most part I only noticed it in retrospect: I was hungry less often and eating less food.

It's not like the "appetite suppression" I get when I'm sick, for example. When I'm sick, the thought of food disgusts me and I find it unappetizing.

With SLD, I enjoy food as much as I ever did. It's not unappetizing, it's still yummy--in fact I find some foods yummier than ever. I'm just not hungry as often and really strong cravings for particular foods (the kind where I'd think about a particular food all day, even when I wasn't hungry) are diminished. For me, the AS of SLD feels more like getting an infusion of willpower than it feels like an appetite suppressant.

[dinchen]

toadkid,

thanks for describing how AS feels for you, I can relate to that very well! And if that kind of AS helped you so shed 80 lbs, well congrats on that and I hope it'll work that well for me!
I still feel like AS is working, not in that extreme kind of way that some people experience, but rather like an infusion of willpower, as you said.

I've gotten sick on the weekend, but never missed taking my oil despite that. On Sunday, I had a fever and lay in bed all day, not eating anything (despite breakfast and oil before the onset), but yesterday and today, the appetite suppression seems to go on steadily. And of course it's more difficult not to eat unhealthy stuff if I'm alone at home all day, with a full kitchen, than when I'm at work and busy!

The weather is supposed to get real nice for the weekend, and I hope I can got back to work on Thursday, even though I guess I won't be able to cycle as I still have quite the cough. However, I'm nearing the 6 at the beginning of my weight and really hope to reach it soon! I'll keep on posting. And if I ever reach my goal weight thanks to SLD, I'll donate a chunk of money - either to Seth, to OA, or to some foundation for kids who don't have enough to eat - which in itself should make me be ashamed to be overweight, but unfortunately, that sentiment rarely kicks in when I'm in front of the sweets drawer....

Anyhow: yay, I think it's working!

current weight: 70.4 kg

[dinchen]

Hurrah! Finally under 70! Yesterday, I had 69,9kg and today it was even less, 69,7kg. It's quite scary how happy the scales can make me sometimes!

So I got to collect my new fancy baking tools from my boyfriend as agreed and put them to good use over the weekend - and the best part is, I managed to hardly eat anything I baked and I skipped dinner, as there was so much to do in the kitchen :-))

I've been very active for the past few weeks, so I guess that's what it takes for me to lose weight. We have a step challenge at work (you get a step counter that you can use while walking around in the office and at home and you can enter other activities minute-wise on a website where you can see how your colleagues do) and since I'm biking 54km to work every day I'm in the top ten (from over 2300 participants). This is the first time EVER that I'm GOOD in a sports competition!! And I love it!

So I hope I can carry on like this and won't get sick again, and that the subtle AS that I've been getting goes on keeping me from eating too much. It's going slowly, if you count 2kg in 2 months, but still, it's going somewhere :-)

Whishing you a just as good start into the week as I had!

Best,
Nadine

[dinchen]

Well, I'm still under 70 kg (today 69.9 kg) for four days straight, that's better than the last three years! I'm very happy about it which makes me more motivated and lets me hope that I'll survive Easter at my parents' house without gaining again - I'll be bringing the scales! And I already ordered a basketball to shoot some hoops at home. The weather doesn't look very promising but we'll see, if it rains a lot, I can still go swimming. Hurrah!

[toadkid]

Well, I'm still under 70 kg (today 69.9 kg) for four days straight, that's better than the last three years!

Hooray! Congratulations!

it lets me hope that I'll survive Easter at my parents' house without gaining again

Follow your internal cues as best you can! But also, don't be too hard on yourself if you do gain a little. You will lose it again.

[dinchen]

Well, I'm still under 70 kg (today 69.9 kg) for four days straight, that's better than the last three years!

Hooray! Congratulations!

Thanks!

it lets me hope that I'll survive Easter at my parents' house without gaining again

Follow your internal cues as best you can! But also, don't be too hard on yourself if you do gain a little. You will lose it again.

That's true, but it's going soooo sloooowly even though I spend over 3 hours a day on the bike and eat under 1400 kcal :-/ But at least, it's finally going somewhere, I feel like SLD is finally working for me, if slowly, and that's awesome! :-)