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[Greenwood]

I believe 100% in the positive benefits of SLD and olive oil.
It's just not working to help me lose weight.
I lost 15 lbs right away, got down to 217, and am now at 225 (10 lbs down).
I've tried it anew on several occasions since the plateau began in March this year, with fresh vigour, attitude, and technique, and I've used many posts on this forum for support. I am truly awed by the words I read of people who keep trying. I promise to keep trying too.

So, today, October 9, 2007, I try it afresh.

[losing-it]

Hi Greenwood. The oil seemed to stop working it's wonder for me, as far as weightloss, although AS was pretty good with a few weeks of very little. Doing the noseclipping thing which I was so averse to for a long time (I love flavors), seems to be great for AS. I'm also using NC to stabilize my calories at about 1350 daily (10 calories per pound of my 1st goal, ideal body weight at 135 lbs). I figure some days I can noseclip, and other days I can enjoy full food-flavors. Or I can have flavor in-between noseclipped main meals. I'm curious to see how this all works on the body fat...

Wishing for you slender and healthy success.

[Maychi]

Hi Greenwood. The oil seemed to stop working it's wonder for me, as far as weightloss, although AS was pretty good with a few weeks of very little. Doing the noseclipping thing which I was so averse to for a long time (I love flavors), seems to be great for AS. I'm also using NC to stabilize my calories at about 1350 daily (10 calories per pound of my 1st goal, ideal body weight at 135 lbs). I figure some days I can noseclip, and other days I can enjoy full food-flavors. Or I can have flavor in-between noseclipped main meals. I'm curious to see how this all works on the body fat...

Wishing for you slender and healthy success.

LI, we seem to be doing something similar. I'm trying to noseclip at least two meals on my down days and one on my up days. So far (after five days) I'm still waiting for my set point to FINALY go under 62 kilos. I'm very stubburn and determined, but it seems that my body is even more so. GRRRRRRR!

[Greenwood]

Had a difficult day yesterday in that I had lunch and supper plans with people. It seems that's how we socialize in our culture. But it makes it difficult to stick to goals regarding weight loss.
It was still a positive day though because I took oil morning and evening and I didn't eat outside of meals.
Baby steps, if it has to be!
 

[losing-it]

Maychi and Greenwood, keep your determination. Let the difficulties fuel that determination. Baby steps, yes. The best thing about days when you seem to have to sidestep your methods, count those as free days and enjoy them. Then jump back on track the next meal.

[shovelqueen]

Keep the faith, Greenwood!  Baby steps are OK, as long as they are going in the right direction!

[Greenwood]

October 16, 2007- weight is mostly stable at 225 and I'm not having much AS.
Curious, however, about head pain which began today. Not a migraine or necessarily even a headache, but a weird feeling in my head. I've not had head pain for two or three months, even while taking ELOO (and I've also not had AS during that time), so maybe this is a signal that AS is returning. I'll have to wait and see.
I have been using a new brand of ELOO called Petrelli. I'd prefer to think that ELOO is ELOO, but perhaps different brands do process the oil differently enough to require the body to adjust. In any event, AS is slow to arrive.
I've been looking for organic ELOO, but unfortunately not in my city.
I might just go back to Bertelli (and look for a very fresh bottle, if possible).
Meanwhile, trying to keep positive and it sure helps to have the support of the people on this forum!

[Greenwood]

October 24- still 225.

I think I"ll have to start with some additional tricks, as losin-it has suggested.

Fighting my weight is getting awfully tiresome. I think I've been conscious of it for almost 30 years. Thirty years of not being happy with myself. Very sad.

Read in the newspaper yesterday that Canadians top the list for obesity, out of a survey of 63 countries (obesity as reported at medical visits. What this could actually be reporting is that Canadians view obesity as something to see a doctor about and people of other countries not so much.  But, the statisic is there.)
 They say 36% of us are obese, and the newspaper had a nasty photo to go with it.

http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/national/story.html?id=f705705b-11ff-4813-abde-96523cd0a985

I hate being a statistic.

[losing-it]

Hi Greenwood. I'm still at it, too. Still doing noseclipping and oil, interchangeably or together in a day. And I've gone back on the Johnson UpDayDownDay Diet for alternating day calorie restriction. Lost 13 pounds in a couple months by combining it with oil for SLD earlier this year, before the long and dread plateau hit. I'm trying to keep my 2 day calorie average to 10 or 11 calories X 135 lbs (goal weight) = 1350 to 1485 c. Yesterday I hit 2400 calories on the Up Day, too high, actually, but unusual for me, and that is ok. Today I'll aim keep the calories to 300-400 for the entire day. Today's plan is a  tablespoon of oil with a little Xylitol and water for breakfast, a protein shake with a salad of lettuce and spinach with diet dressing for one lunch, and maybe another protein shake with a clementine dinner. I may do the spinach and clementine for in-between meals instead -- the every 2 1/2 hour eating routine. It's usually very do-able for me without much hunger, though sometimes I get tastebud cravings. I'll have to stop at a store today for some Xylitol-sweetened gum, which I like. Also, can drink tea or Xylitol sweetened, very dilute lemon or lime juice (CFF).

I was 1 lb down yesterday, after several days of JUDDDD and noseclipping. This morning, I'm probably up at least a pound or two just from the undigested food in my system. I've not weighed yet, but will in about a half-hour at the doc's office when I go for my ECP therapy. After ECP is finished this week, I think I'll just weigh myself on the Down days, or once a week if I can separate myself from the morning-numbers obsession 

[Ann H]

I too experienced a slowdown and then reversal in SLD working for me. Don't know why this happens to some but not others, but it definitely does happen to a good bit of folks.

For me, I came to the conclusion that my body is so messed-up fat-creating wise that it simply learned how to keep putting on fat even with lower calories and the SLD effect. I think it mostly did this via low metabolism, though I definitely suspect something else was at work that I haven't figured out yet--gluten and msg reactions keep niggling at my mind, for instance.

So recently I took a few months off SLD (July to now) and focused on building my core musculature through t-tapp. Now I weigh a helluva lot and have great new dense muscles everywhere and am strong as hell but have no more fat than when I started the tapping. My fat was actually down substantialy but recently bounced back up a bit coinciding with not quite exercising enough on my US vacation, and returning to Malaysia--I reckon depression plus damn msg.

I've added SLD back in now that I've got good musculature, and have cut out gluten and tried to cut msg--darn in-laws keep taking us to restaurant where they use the stuff like salt. I'm also still working out (still t-tapp--I really love it and am amazed to still be getting new muscles and "cuts") three times weekly.

I'll report back how this goes for me. But all I can say now is that I strongly suspect that some of us have underlying issues that will need to be ironed out before we can approach normal fat percentages even with SLD and sensible eating and "sensible" activity. Right now I'm suspecting my issues were low metabolism (which I certainly no longer have--never sleepy anymore) and something related to gluten and msg, but I'm really not sure.

[losing-it]

Ann_H. I'm so glad to see your posting again! Working out/exercise has worked for me, as it has for you. Lots of lean, great muscle, strong as hell, evidently some fat loss, but not enough to make a dent yet in the flab-paddy stores on the thighs, under-triceps, belly, etc. I'm just going to keep at it -- exercise, SLD, JUDDDD, i.e., calorie restriction to some degree, and working on food combinations, etc. I figure I'll get to goal, regardless of the setbacks. Thankfully, I'm not increasing in weight. I've been maintaining either fat-reductions and/or stable weight for a year, now, 10 months of those with the help of SLD.

Hope you had a very good visit in the USA. I hope you'll be able to manage the eating situation with inlaws, restaurants, etc. I've been pretty well depression-free, I think, for a long time, now, with the combination of fish oils, eating salmon and/or tuna 2-3 times per week, dosing with oil for SLD, magnesium supplements and exercise. I think adding fish oil supplements has been the best piece of the anti-depression puzzle for me. For SLD, I've finally started noseclipping one or two meals, generally, during the day, with a mushy meal similar to chili -- using ground meat or protein, veggie soups and finely chopped or ground veggies, healthy herbs and spices. The AS with it seems to be pretty good. As mentioned above, I'm still using oil as well, and interchange the two methods. I've added JUDDDD back, but have been off exercise for about 2 weeks, since the ECP therapy works the heart so much, with the therapy combined with my exercise seemed to be making me too fatigued. I had the last treatment on Thursday, so can start exercising again.

Greenwood, how is it going for you?

[losing-it]

Ann_H, I'm so glad to see your posting again! Working out/exercise has worked for me, as it has for you. Lots of lean, great muscle, strong as hell, evidently some fat loss, but not enough to make a dent yet in the flab-paddy stores on the thighs, under-triceps, belly, etc. I'm just going to keep at it -- exercise, SLD, JUDDDD, i.e., calorie restriction to some degree, and working on food combinations, etc. I figure I'll get to goal, regardless of the setbacks. Thankfully, I'm not increasing in weight. I've been maintaining either fat-reductions and/or stable weight for a year, now, 10 months of those with the help of SLD.

Hope you had a very good visit in the USA. I hope you'll be able to manage the eating situation with inlaws, restaurants, etc. I've been pretty well depression-free, I think, for a long time, now, with the combination of fish oils, eating salmon and/or tuna 2-3 times per week, dosing with oil for SLD, magnesium supplements and exercise. I think adding fish oil supplements has been the best piece of the anti-depression puzzle for me. For SLD, I've finally started noseclipping one or two meals, generally, during the day, with a mushy meal similar to chili -- using ground meat or protein, veggie soups and finely chopped or ground veggies, healthy herbs and spices. The AS with it seems to be pretty good. As mentioned above, I'm still using oil as well, and interchange the two methods. I've added JUDDDD back, but have been off exercise for about 2 weeks, since the ECP therapy works the heart so much, with the therapy combined with my exercise seemed to be making me too fatigued. I had the last treatment on Thursday, so can start exercising again.

Greenwood, how is it going for you?

[Greenwood]

October 29

losin-it, I've been avoiding posting because I have no good news and don't want to bring anyone down. Actually, I'm almost up to 230, which is near where I started in January.
Anne H, your post hits it on the nail for me. Just this past weekend I purchased a book on gluten-free living and visited an aunt who has cooked and baked gluten-free for years.  I agree, there has to be something else going on for me. SLD is providing AS for me, moderately at least which is good enough, yet the weight is going on anyway.

I'm going to keep on with the oil because it provides so many great benefits, and I may as well keep on with it in SLD fashion because it does reduce the food-centred focus that I tend to live with, but will focus now on learning how to be gluten-free and adding exercise.
I'm not giving up.
Thanks everyone for great support!!

[Greenwood]

Weight is around 214, but it's  because I've bought a new scale.
This one has a bmi estimate and fat estimate, but it seems to weigh significantly less than my other scale. My other scale is a good quality analog. But it just never seemed to budge!
Although it's nice to have a fancy digital scale (that I don't have to squint at to read), it does seem to give different 'reads' depending on how I'm standing on it. The old one isn't like that. Of course, I enjoy the numbers on the new one much better!
 
I'll just have to sort out the way to stand on it and do it consistently. It's just setting a new standard and accepting that I haven't actually lost that much weight!

Gluten free is going well. It's not as hard as I thought it might be. I haven't been able to do any actual baking yet (flour mixes are outlandishly expensive!) so quick snacks can be boring (fruit bar or fruit bar? while my son gets muffins, goldfish, cookies and so on). But definitely doable, once I get the baking in line. And, most importantly, no bloating and no pain in the gut, and even by the old scale's measurement, I've lost some weight. So, good news.
 

I've got good solid AS now. Yesterday, a day spent entirely at home, I got to 6pm on two cups of coffee, a jasmine tea, and a fruit bar. I was hungry at supper time and it was nice to know I could eat 'guilt free' (and especially that I wouldn't have tummy troubles afterwards).

I've stopped taking oil at night- so have reduced my oiil to 2 tbsp in the am. It's not affected AS, as noted above, but I've started waking up at night again and skin, eyes, and mouth are drier.  This could be also just the onset of winter here, less moisture in the air and central heating on all the time. Night time wakfulness could be either positive or negative- I'm either well rested or not sleeping well. Only time will tell. And I have a definite sense of missing something at bedtime, when I would usually take the oil. Makes me wonder about being physically addicted to the oil..... What I mean is, the habit was stopped over a week ago, but I still think about it at bedtime and want to take it.
Interesting for me.

Oh, one comment about gluten... American and Canadian statistics say that just about 1% of the population (1 in 133) is gluten intolerant. Are you?

[Greenwood]

Gluten free comment- had a lovely AS and gluten free day, but had pain in my gut in the afternoon. I was worried that perhaps my problem wasn't gluten at all and I kept going over and over what I'd eaten..... handful of almonds, caesar salad- no crutons, chocolate milk, and a rice krispie square. No gluten there......
When I went to the grocery store in the evening I looked at the ingredients on rice krispies, and sure enough, it contains wheat! Who would have thought??
That stuff is hidden in so much!

Weigh 212.3 this morning, so possibly down two pounds. As I noted above, it's a new scale so I'm trying to get consistency with it.
The fat indicators are not nice at all. I'm ashamed to show what the say:
30% BMI
45% with the current thing.

Yuck.
That's just being 40 lbs overweight!

I've definitely been inspired by posters here- losin it, Ann H, shovelqueen, Pinkmug.  Everybody helps, just by posting thoughts and comments.
It reminds me that health is the real goal, not just weight loss. With those fat indicators, obviously I have a ways to go in the health department.