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mpq:
Fair enough, Twinkletoes!

anacara:
Twinkletoes, I agree with you.  It sounds unhealthy and dangerous, and a cynical money making exercise.  It is also based on the tired old idea that fat makes you fat.

TalkingRat:

I'm a bit worried about it, too, but from the perspective that it does not encourage people to eat the right kind of fat.  Even if people do eat the right kind of fat, if they take that pill, how will they get the essential fatty acids so many of us are deficient in? 

Since they don't have to change their habits, once they've lost the weight, they'd gain it back if they stopped taking the pill, wouldn't they?  -- Although, I suspect with this pill, they get unpleasant 'side effects' if they go overboard, so they may be learning better eating habits.  My local station said it would cost $12-$25 a week, so the cost may keep it from becoming the first choice.

mpg, maybe your VCO is working against you?   I was using refined CO, noseclipped, no hint of taste or smell.   I think some of us are super-sensers, not tasting or smelling it.  It does have a very distinctive mouth feel, and I think it's possible for such a distinctive sensation to become linked to the CO calories -- not for everyone, but for some of us.  Not everyone gets full AS from noseclipped smoothies, either.  I was using  CO for one of my two SLD doses, and it took a couple weeks before AS dropped below critical mass.   My hope is that once I'm at maintenance,  partial AS will be good enough and I can try out flavored oils like CO and EVOO again.  Meanwhile, I'm going to great lengths to not sense the ELOO I take.

mpq:
Good morning TalkingRat!

The prescription fat blocker pill only blocks 1/3 of the fat intake. The over the counter pill is 1/2 of that dose.   One of the benefits of this pill is that if you eat a high fat meal, the consequences are very unpleasant. It is to be a detriment to high fat, as well as a blocker. If you have any kind of a life at all, you are not going to take this and eat high fat! :oops:
With twinkletoes, I objected to the labels I felt she was putting on those of us who have or will have tried this. She explained that I was wrong, and I am OK with that. The problem with forums is that there is no immediate post and response. I am sorry that I responded as I did. the wonderful thing about this forum is the cordial give and take of information, and I stepped out of that box. Very unusual for me. I'm an a laid back smiley person.
I am still working on my morning coffee, so am a little obtuse yet. ( Home from work because of a blizzard.) VCO? I love any and all suggestions to help me, so please explain.
Thanks for the post :D

TalkingRat:

The tv clip I caught was saying the OTC version cuts 1/4 of the fat.  Not wanting to get the 'side effect'  would be incentive to limit fat even more.  There is still a danger that people will 'make' their OTC pill Rx level, unsafely.

Off topic - sorry, mpq, I didn't see that you were quoting, felt your frustration coming through, and read that as your VCO.  My hunch is that for some of us, noseclipping does not entirely remove the calorie association of flavored oils.  We are likely the same ones who don't get much effect from noseclipping smoothies, either.  Others are so happy with flavored oils, so we try them, and our AS gradually falls off.  I've had a loss of AS with CO, EVOO, and cream in smoothies -- all noseclipped.  CO and cream have a distinctive mouth feel, but I didn't notice that with EVOO.  When I noseclip food, the smell gets stuck deep in my sinus cavities and removing clips after waiting 30 minutes, I still get a strong flavor whoosh!  I'm working on getting my AS back after taking a break for surgery, and I'm thinking about how I taste coffee in my mouth for more than an hour later, and just realized I get less taste sensation from ELOO if I chug compared to floating -- both pinched and rinsed, of course.   Sorry for the confusion.  I love your avatar!

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