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Ethesis, 240+ start, 183 this morning May 27, 2006
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2006, 04:26:29 AM »

Ok, I typed up a long post at the child board:

http://boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=492.0

probably more details and comments than anyone wanted to know.

And I skipped lots.

I started on sugar water.  Two liters of water, 2/3 cup of sugar, drunk half in the morning and half in the afternoon.

I switched out a tablespoon of oil for a liter of water when I was going to be out of the office.  Talked with Seth and found out that I needed two tablespoons of oil.

Before long, I switched to only the extra-light olive oil.  I bought a bunch in bulk at SAMS and Costco (I was worried I might run out, gee, I didn't realize quite how long a huge bottle would last).  I've started adding grapeseed oil.  I'd originally bought it to add a different flavor to my eggs when I fried them.  It didn't work that well to fry them (you need a lot more oil than you need butter to keep them from sticking), but it had no flavor at all, so I tried it, then I tried blending it with the olive oil.

Ordered some in bulk over the internet.  Pricewise, with shipping costs, it is close to just buying it at Tom Thumb or Central Market.

I just decided to try the whey, with oil later in the day.  I like the way the oil makes my hair soft (I know, everyone has that reaction to the oil).  I'm using the whey to keep my protien levels up while cutting back on my calories/food.

I used to be very fat, but the fat was pretty solid.  Now it is very soft and I actually get back pain from it that I wasn't getting before.  I find a tight belt for some support helps a lot in that regard.  As I lose weight through this stretch, the amount of back pain really drops as well.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2006, 03:33:31 AM »

I've started with Whey protien, as soon as I wake up, wait an hour to brush my teeth.  I'm wondering if the bad taste of morning breath will start to count as flavor or not, but the whey needs to be taken with a fair amount of water, so I want to use it early on in the day.  Right now that means 5:30 or so.

The brand I got seems to be pretty flavorless.  I'm wondering how it will compare to AnyWhey (which is in the mail to me).  I plan to try this for a month or so (until the protien starts to run low) to see how it works.  I'm back to 400 calories a day of flavorless calories, attempting to move my weight loss to a more steady amount, after a plateau for a week or so.

Will report back.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2006, 06:43:34 AM »

Can you tell us what protein brand/flavor you're using now? Is it palatable? The AnyWhey makes me gag after nearly a full glass (and only 70 calories!).

thanks,

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2006, 09:12:49 AM »

Congrats, Stephen!  You've already surpassed my goal of 55 pounds.  Quite inspiring.
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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2006, 12:52:11 PM »

Can you tell us what protein brand/flavor you're using now? Is it palatable? The AnyWhey makes me gag after nearly a full glass (and only 70 calories!).

thanks,

-Mark

I need to look more on the can.  Mostly all it says its stuff that looks like advertising, but there is an url, I'll take another look at it tonight.

I take 2.5 scoops (at 90 calories per scoop) and mix with about 24 ounces of water, and it goes right down.

Sounds like I might not be as pleased with AnyWhey when it gets here.  Ah well.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2006, 04:08:09 PM »

In a message dated 5/24/2006 12:47:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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Are you deliberately modifying your eating habits in any other way besides taking the oil, whey, and so forth?  I was just curious as to whether you were also skipping meals or anything like that. The diet seemed to work best for me when I ate one meal a day, namely lunch.  Michael, who had some of the best results in Seth's book, also skipped dinner.

I really appreciate your posts in various places. I think you've helped a lot of people with them.

My reply:

I've tried some additional modifications recently.

I now take whey protein at about 5:30 a.m.

skip breakfast, have oil or sugar cubes at about 10:00 a.m.

Eat lunch (usually a sandwich).

Eat dinner (usually yogurt).

Today I had a sandwich and yogurt for lunch, some yogurt for dinner.

I had been eating three meals a day for the last 56 pounds, but I've hit a plateau for the last week or so (very slow weight loss again), so I'm changing up.

Before the plateau, I was eating as follows:

2 eggs, 2 slices dry toast, 2-3 ounces of orange juice for breakfast

sandwich and yogurt for lunch.

sandwich and yogurt for dinner.

(both sandwiches were dry, just bread and lunch meat or peanut butter and jelly, about 70 calories of filling in the sandwich, the yogurt was fat free plain, with a quarter cup of sugar).

I've only tried the change for two days (today is the second).  Let me get into next week and I'll know a lot more.

The whey is great because I get 47 grams of protien with it.  That frees me up to eat anything else in the day without having to worry about getting enough protien. 

I'm still working out a transition, because I want to lose about 24 pounds between now and September 1st.  We will see if I make it.


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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2006, 10:45:32 AM »

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I have enjoyed your posts and encouragement. I have just one question:

Why do you sign your name Stephen M (Ethesis)??

If you do a search for Ethesis, you will find that Ethesis is my screen name from a very, very long time ago. I'm involved in a number of places where we use real names, so I go by Stephen (except there are a lot of Stephens and Steves so I go by Stephen M) and to keep my identity consistent, I use the (Ethesis) in parens so people know it is me.  I just sign my name the same, wherever I'm at these days.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2006, 07:00:54 AM »

Two updates.

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First, at my blog I did a "final blog post" post:

http://ethesis.blogspot.com/2006/05/diet-index.html

I'll keep the rest here.

Also had a post on Plateaus, which was unfinished.  Here is the information:

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After the first month or so (well, the first eight weeks) I found that I hit a series of plateaus.  It seems that about once a month my body slows down and adjusts to having lost a lot of weight and then starts losing again.  Last month it was a pound a week for two weeks and then three pounds a week for the next two weeks.

As I understand it, that experience is normal.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2006, 07:35:37 AM »

Stephen,

Did you get a chance to get the information off of your "natural whey" container? I'm kind of chomping at the bit for that as it sounds like it's compatible w/SLD and even though I gagged on the AnyWhey, it DID seem to do the trick appetite wise (I suspect protein works well for ME for appetite suppression...).

Thanks,

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2006, 09:58:03 AM »

Stephen,

Did you get a chance to get the information off of your "natural whey" container? I'm kind of chomping at the bit for that as it sounds like it's compatible w/SLD and even though I gagged on the AnyWhey, it DID seem to do the trick appetite wise (I suspect protein works well for ME for appetite suppression...).

Thanks,

-Mark

Yes.

http://www.designerwhey.com/

As far as I can tell, the label and the name and such all blend together to obscure anything but the advertisement.

But that is what I'm using.  I've got a bottle of AnyWhey I'll try when my other bottle is at the end.  I suspect that the quality may not be even, and that the fresher it is, the blander.

I mix it with 20 ounces of water and just drink it down, first thing in the morning when I wake up.  I then hold off brushing my teeth for an hour.

It might not taste as bland if I were drinking it after brushing my teeth ....

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2006, 10:38:41 AM »

I've been using Absolute Isolate by interActive Nutrition - http://www.interactivenutrition.ca/products/absoluteisolate.php - the guy at the store said that generally protein 'isolate' (which is whey) has even less flavor than plain whey.  Though the jury's out on whether I'm getting appetite suppression from it.  Like Stephen I take it first thing in the morning, and regardless I'm glad I'm getting the protein, and with 110 calories per serving, that leaves me with 2 tablespoons of oil which is very easy to take. (or at least it was before I got off track!  Onwards...)
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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2006, 11:53:32 AM »

I've been using Absolute Isolate by interActive Nutrition - http://www.interactivenutrition.ca/products/absoluteisolate.php - the guy at the store said that generally protein 'isolate' (which is whey) has even less flavor than plain whey.  Though the jury's out on whether I'm getting appetite suppression from it.  Like Stephen I take it first thing in the morning, and regardless I'm glad I'm getting the protein, and with 110 calories per serving, that leaves me with 2 tablespoons of oil which is very easy to take. (or at least it was before I got off track!  Onwards...)

Thanks, I'll look into that next.

My plan with the protiens is to switch brands steadily, so that even if there is some flavor, I'll switch out to a different almost flavor on the next.  For maintenance it won't matter.  I've only got 24 more pounds to lose (160 is my goal, but I'd like to have a pound of fudge factor too).

Hmm, I'm finding it hard to find on ebay or amazon.  I've sent them an e-mail to look for a source to try.

Neat stuff, 25 grams of protien a serving, two of those and you've hit your protien needs for the day.

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« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2006, 02:55:30 PM »

Thanks for the additional info on the proteins. I've tried designer whey in the past (although not the "natural" flavor) and thought it was pretty decent stuff (or at least their advertising is pretty decent!).

-Mark

PS. I hope you and Ronnie will eventually post an update on the success of the protein (or lack thereof) in the Tips/Innovations topic.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2006, 04:12:42 PM »

Thanks for the additional info on the proteins. I've tried designer whey in the past (although not the "natural" flavor) and thought it was pretty decent stuff (or at least their advertising is pretty decent!).

-Mark

PS. I hope you and Ronnie will eventually post an update on the success of the protein (or lack thereof) in the Tips/Innovations topic.



Give me a week to try it and see how things go.

http://ethesis.blogspot.com/2006/05/diet-index.html is where I've put what is probably my final blog post on weight loss (the rest will be here), you can always reach me by leaving a comment there.

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« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2006, 05:30:05 PM »

I've been using Absolute Isolate by interActive Nutrition - http://www.interactivenutrition.ca/products/absoluteisolate.php - the guy at the store said that generally protein 'isolate' (which is whey) has even less flavor than plain whey.  Though the jury's out on whether I'm getting appetite suppression from it.  Like Stephen I take it first thing in the morning, and regardless I'm glad I'm getting the protein, and with 110 calories per serving, that leaves me with 2 tablespoons of oil which is very easy to take. (or at least it was before I got off track!  Onwards...)

BTW, which store?  I'd like to find some.  I've e-mailed them, but so far, no response.

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