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Re: Ethesis, plateaus, progress reports, etc.
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2006, 04:31:20 PM »


Today was neat.  I was at a class, they had a morning buffet and an afternoon buffet.  The morning one I skipped, though I had some at lunch.  I hit my calorie limit quickly, to where my appetite turned off.  Of course the food had new flavors, but I suspect it was more calorie dense than I expected.  When the afternoon buffet came up, I could only regret I hadn't waited to eat until 2:00 instead of 12:00.  I just didn't feel like eating.

Ran into a friend I hadn't seen.  We both had hard times recognizing each other.  I'd lost 56 pounds, he'd lost eighty and then regained thirty and was really feeling desperate.  He could tell I wasn't eating because the food because I didn't feel like it.  He's starting the diet tomorrow morning, and is excited about it.

Also talked with a co-worker.  We walked for forty minutes at lunch.  He is really heavy, but his weight has been the same, within one pound, for seven-eight years, no matter what he has done.  He plans to start the diet even though his wife thinks it is silly.

Finally, some of my wife's co-workers started up on the diet.  That was kind of neat, one read my review on Amazon and remarked to my wife it was well written.  She decided to look, and likes it too.

Anyway, a good day.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2006, 07:31:38 PM »

Weights went really well.

Before the diet, at the end, my heart rate would be about 140 on the bike.  Now it is 104.

Great day.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2006, 10:00:03 PM »

Hey, Stephen, just wondering: you still mostly eating PB & J? (Or was that someone else?)

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2006, 05:00:51 AM »

Hey, Stephen, just wondering: you still mostly eating PB & J? (Or was that someone else?)

Ann H

I ate PB&J with the yogurt for about four months.  Recently switched to lunch meat.  I was only using a half teaspoon of PB and about a teaspoon of jelly on each sandwich.  I had a couple this last week for old times sake.  Hmm, that week I lost three pounds, this week I'll lose two.  Maybe I should go back ;)

I'm amazed at how long the little jars of jelly lasted me once I quit using quite so much.  The PB seems to last forever as well (though my six-year-old loves PB&J sandwiches too).

I have two slices of bread with about 70 calories of stuff to go with it, though the lunch meat seems to have more protien.  The real reason I switches is that I started eating a lot of various flavored wheat breads.  When I was a kid I ate PB&J with whole wheat, but I got out of that as an adult.

Hope that answers the question.

But they make a quick, easy lunch.  Yogurt in a glass (we got a bunch of cheap goblets at the local market that we are using for drinking glasses and I use them for my fat free yogurt -- I like the flavor) and a sandwich is fast, easy and I eat it twice a day, most days.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2006, 09:08:33 AM »

So, Stephen, you feel that you're overcoming the ditto effect of that very repetitious eating?

I'm finding the zeal for constant variety to be the only difficult part of this way of eating.
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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2006, 11:20:18 AM »

DirkVA,

The way I understand it, the constant variety is just ONE of the options...it doesn't HAVE TO be practiced in ADDITION to the oil/SW...it can be done INSTEAD of (much harder) or in addition to, the oil/sw but not by necessity. It's just another way to help.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2006, 03:09:08 PM »

So, Stephen, you feel that you're overcoming the ditto effect of that very repetitious eating?

I'm finding the zeal for constant variety to be the only difficult part of this way of eating.

When I have more time, I'll get away from the ditto effect.

Not that I don't have lots of subtle variations.

I blend various non-fat yogurts.  I buy a different brand of bread and a different type on ever visit to the store.  I buy whatever orange juice is on sale (at an inch or so of juice for breakfast, if my daughter's friends don't get into it, it ends up going bad before I finish a container).

But, yes, it overcomes the ditto effect nicely.

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Great encounter
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2006, 03:14:44 PM »

Had a great discussion today.

I explained the diet to a friend I hadn't seen at a while (we ran into each other at CLE).  He started this morning, noticed an immediate dramatic effect, bought the book last night after some web searching.  Took the copy I brought for him today and started reading it, plans to pass it along to his brother tonight, expects his copy to arrive tomorrow, is going to buy a bunch of them to give away, and was explaining the diet to other people at lunch.

It was neat to see him go from desperation yesterday to full of hope and energy today.

I have to admit that one very good thing about the diet is that many people feel immediate verification.  He's on 4 tablespoons right after he wakes up, then don't brush your teeth for an hour.  I warned him to watch his protien so he gets enough, use less oil if his appetite drops off too much.  But I'm excited for him.

Also told him the "pour your oil into a cup of water and drink it down" trick which I learned on these forums and tried for the first time yesterday.  It worked very well for getting the oil down without tasting it and without delays.  It is a very neat trick.

I'm going to use it again tomorrow.

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getting ready to shift directions
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2006, 06:13:45 AM »

This last week I started walking a bit more and a bit more serioously.  Averaged about five miles a day.

I'm about to make another shift.

I'm going to start each day with about 210 calories in protien (starting with Any Whey, but I expect to vary the protien types in order to avoid too much flavor identification) as flavorless calories in the place of breakfast.  Then I'll do two tablespoons of mixed oil (grapeseed and extra light olive oil).

A sandwich or yogurt for lunch and the opposit for dinner.  The protien will replace my two egg/ two dry toast breakfast, and I'll be splitting one meal over two settings rather than having a sandwich and yogurt for both lunch and dinner.  As long as I use lunchmeat (about 60-75 calories worth) I'll get enough protien.  I'm still taking the vitamins, etc.

I'll see how that goes for the next week or so.  I'm very serious about wanting to make 160 by September, while not losing any strength.

My weight lifting continiues to show improvement.  A myogenic program takes only one solid workout, and one five minute workout a week.  http://www.asep.org/jeponline/issue/Doc/Dec2004/Smith.pdf explains the concept.  Especially since I managed to inflame my rotator cuffs with bag work (I'd never used a heavy bag, the trainer that showed me how, didn't do it right) and quit working my shoulders while the rest of my body got much stronger ... I have a lot of ground to cover by September.

Anyway, that is the change I'm making.  I'll comment on it and do more updates.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2006, 06:22:10 AM »

You might want to try drinking the Anywhey through a straw (as recommended by some for the oil) to help  reduce taste. I purchased some straws yesterday but haven't yet actually tried it myself with the anywhey, but plan to today or tomorrow.

Looking forward to hearing how the protein works for you.

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2006, 06:32:47 AM »

Thanks, I've got straws, I'll try that when the AnyWhey comes in.

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On a plateau for the last week.
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2006, 02:31:29 PM »

Thanks, I've got straws, I'll try that when the AnyWhey comes in.

I'll also note that I really increased my miles done in walking and running this week.  Food intake stayed the same.

Net result?  Weight did not budge,  In my experience, that will take until next week to start happening.

Though my feet are sore (between 5.5 and 3.5 miles every day).

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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2006, 12:10:20 AM »

Shouldn't you put a blurb on the four weeks or more board?  Just so someone does!
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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2006, 12:46:58 AM »

This thread could be moved there--I moderate at a vB board and we move posts all the time through the admin panel. I assume Seth is the sole admin/mod at this point--you might want to ask him to move it.
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Re: Ethesis, six months May 13, on May 18 down 56 pounds
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2006, 03:50:49 AM »

Shouldn't you put a blurb on the four weeks or more board?  Just so someone does!

Guess I will, that board is new ;)

183.5 this morning, started using whey protien for flavorless calories at 5:30 a.m. (I risnse my mouth, but will hold off brushing my teeth until 6:30 a.m.).

I was surprised at how little flavor there was.

While waiting for my order of Any Whey I dropped into a sports store (bodybuilding stuff).  I've got this huge jar and I'm looking at it realizing I'm not sure what brand it is.  All it has is advertising (e.g. "America's #1 Protein since 1993" and "America's #1 Protein Designer Protein Whey" "New & Improved" "Natural").  I'll see how this works. 

I'll have to wander over to the other board and post as well, thanks for the pointer.
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