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 51 
 on: October 08, 2014, 01:08:14 PM 
Started by Morex - Last post by siren
Great to hear from you Morex. I was wondering what you were up to! I took your advice and dropped sugar. Not rigidly, but I rarely have a piece of chocolate or a biscuit everyday, as I used to. I think what helped is taking the oil and sugar (I take 2 tbsps oil and 2 teaspoons of sugar at 4pm each day) daily and just not eating sugar! Also, I take chromium and L-Glutamine each day which I think helps with the sugar cravings.

Stay strong!

 :)

 52 
 on: October 07, 2014, 07:06:30 PM 
Started by marsh - Last post by Augustus
... after initially experiencing AS, I started to eat normally again (ie crappy stuff in between meals) and was feeling hungry and my stomach felt really bloated and huge.  I had also PUT ON 3 lbs!!  I had a wedding to go to so i stopped the ELOO and my weight went back down and I wasn't feeling bloated.

So 3 lbs is about 2% of you wieght.  I see 2-3% changes all time in my weight.  As you can see here, for example: http://boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=2105.msg108554#msg108554

I find that sometimes I eat too much for because of old habits, or something really delightful is put in front of me, or a social situation.  I was traveling recently and there was lots of fun food and social stuff and I put on 6 pounds in just a few days (+%3).  Over the follow next week most of it fell off.

Yes, there are situations wher the eating makes me feel "bloated," etc.  It's as if there is another element, beyond the AS, where the stomach et. al. is less willing to consume stuff.

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But the weird thing is I seem to have gone back to not being bothered about crappy food (chocolate, cakes etc).  I seem to be able to take or leave them and I'm not really feeling that hungry.  I will open the cupboard, see cakes and not really feel like eating them!

I too notice that if I stop taking the oil my disinterest in food persists for quite a while afterward.  Seth's theory for that, in so far as I understand it, is that it takes a while for the body to relearn the ditto foods that it might crave on a regular basis.

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My take on it is that I since I know it works in general and that for me, the way I do it, I lose about a pound a week on average it's more about being patient and keeping at it.  I don't stress about the day to day variations, and I don't stress much about what I eat.  I just let the AS do the work.  After I while I mostly stopped trying to puzzle what triggered a sudden drop or a tick upward.  I figure - if I'm generally eating less that's sufficient.  But yeah, i'm not trying to see how fast I can lose the weight - particularly if it get's in the way (sic) of having that awesome smoked egg salad sandwich I had recently, twice.

I should update that progress chart, since the last month has been pretty disappointing :).

 53 
 on: October 07, 2014, 05:18:35 AM 
Started by marsh - Last post by marsh
Welcome!

I just wanted to say that SLD is great and it has been a huge help for me to
turn things around, but given your health concerns you shouldn't rely
exclusively on a diet.

You haven't said if you exercise. You should start to if you don't. Pick a
sport that you like and you can stick to it. I personally would love to put
some muscle on and have a six pack, but the gym bores me to tears. I do love
cycling however and not only it's easy for me to go for a ride, but I'm kind
of addicted to it too. What I'm trying to say is find something that works for
you and it won't be a chore.

Now cycling has a social element to it - there are cyclists who join together
for group rides virtually everywhere. If you enjoy company and meeting people
it might not even feel like a workout. Just saying. :)

Hi gte.  Thanks for your reply.  I am all or nothing with exercise.  Sometimes I'll do loads and other times, I don't do any-not ideal I know but am looking to get back into it again. 

Since I last posted, I had a bit of a freak out about the diet as after initially experiencing AS, I started to eat normally again (ie crappy stuff in between meals) and was feeling hungry and my stomach felt really bloated and huge.  I had also PUT ON 3 lbs!!  I had a wedding to go to so i stopped the ELOO and my weight went back down and I wasn't feeling bloated.  But the weird thing is I seem to have gone back to not being bothered about crappy food (chocolate, cakes etc).  I seem to be able to take or leave them and I'm not really feeling that hungry.  I will open the cupboard, see cakes and not really feel like eating them!

I am planning to try again with coconut oil. I have also received the book, which I'd ordered, so I will read that so I know exactly what I'm doing.  There is defintely something in this!! 

 54 
 on: September 30, 2014, 02:41:23 AM 
Started by marsh - Last post by gte
Welcome!

I just wanted to say that SLD is great and it has been a huge help for me to
turn things around, but given your health concerns you shouldn't rely
exclusively on a diet.

You haven't said if you exercise. You should start to if you don't. Pick a
sport that you like and you can stick to it. I personally would love to put
some muscle on and have a six pack, but the gym bores me to tears. I do love
cycling however and not only it's easy for me to go for a ride, but I'm kind
of addicted to it too. What I'm trying to say is find something that works for
you and it won't be a chore.

Now cycling has a social element to it - there are cyclists who join together
for group rides virtually everywhere. If you enjoy company and meeting people
it might not even feel like a workout. Just saying. :)

 55 
 on: September 29, 2014, 05:43:53 PM 
Started by marsh - Last post by Augustus
I doubt there is any harm in trying different amounts of oil.

I float it on a bit of water and then sort of blast some cold/cool water on top of that to atomize the oil.  I then drink down the resulting mixture pretty quickly.  The cold helps reduce the taste, if any, and the slimy oily mouth issue is mostly eliminated.

When I'm totally into it I only eat in evenings.  But it's my choice that I don't try to make this about will power; I just let the AS do the work.  So if I'm hungry I'll eat a bit to address that.

 56 
 on: September 29, 2014, 09:29:21 AM 
Started by marsh - Last post by marsh
Thank you SO much for replying.....was beginning to feel a bit despondent about there being no-one on here :(

I'm definitely not experiencing cravings as much and can resist crap more easily but I am still eating it on occasion....

I have also felt a bit of hunger between meals, to the extent I've felt shaky and had a rumbly stomach-not quite the strong AS I was hoping for-I am definitely not forgetting to eat! 

I can still eat the same size meals-I was hoping to be able to have smaller portions.

I shall keep going.  It's doing something-I'm not thinking about chocolate and sugar 24/7 like I was before, so that's a massive positive.

 57 
 on: September 29, 2014, 04:21:59 AM 
Started by belaker - Last post by Augustus
I wouldn't worry about it.  I'd only worry about being sure that you get sufficent calories to trigger the appetite supression during in the middle of the two hour flavor/smell free period.  As that's all there is to this :).

 58 
 on: September 29, 2014, 04:16:37 AM 
Started by marsh - Last post by Augustus
"just looked at all the chocolate bars and felt nothing" ... it is amazing isn't it?

welcome to the forum, and yeah it's peaceful here :)

Sounds to me like you're doing it just right.   You can expect that the appetite suppression will ebb and flow a bit, don't worry about it, just keep following the pattern and it will all work out.

 59 
 on: September 27, 2014, 09:04:21 PM 
Started by statue - Last post by Oilman
Hi, Morex,

It means a lot to me that you're still posting. I miss Seth, too. He contributed a lot to my life.

I pray his family (who I assume is keeping this site going) keeps it on the net.

Thanks for checking in. I know you give hope to many others than just me.

 60 
 on: September 27, 2014, 02:14:53 AM 
Started by Stephen M (Ethesis) - Last post by marsh
Hi vaunfun.

I'm no expert as I've just started too but:-

~ Have you worked out the correct number of tablespoons you should take?  It's double the amount of calories as your body weight in pounds.  Say you weigh 150 lbs, then you need 300 calories of oil.  Each 15ml tablespoon is 120 cals, so that's 2 and a half tablespoons.

~  Are you making sure you haven't eaten, brushed your teeth, chewed gum or taken in any flavours for ONE HOUR before taking the oil?

~  Are you leaving ONE HOUR again before eating?

~  Which oil are you using?  Extra light Olive Oil seems to work best and has no flavour

~  You could try splitting the doses and taking morning and afternoon as I do-see my above post.

Sometimes it can take a while for AS to kick in.  I have def noticed that my appetite has decreased.  I feel very full when I've had a meal and don't feel like eating sweet stuff afterwards as I used to.  I felt a bit hungry yesterday but when I ate was satisfied with much less food.  I've lost 2lbs so far and this is the start of my fourth day.

Keep trying and keep posting-would be interested to see how you get on.

It's a shame it's so quiet on here, would be good to chat more to people.  Maybe it has something to do with Seth Roberts' death  :( (although I am positive it had nothing to do with the diet...olive oil is very good for you)

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