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Title: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 149 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on June 07, 2006, 03:34:28 PM
I started this diet 32 days and 18 pounds ago. I'm a 39 year-old, 5'7"
male. I weighed 180 lbs when I started; as of this morning I'm at
162. I had been doing a half-assed job of Atkins for some years. One
year ago I started running and dropped about 10 lbs. But under Atkins
I was eating so much high caloric food and was not controlling the
portion size, so my weight stayed high even though I was exercising a
great deal.

Under SLD I've been able to control the portion size. I almost never
have seconds, and I've reduced the amount of food I eat a great deal
with very little hunger. This is a real first for me, since I've never
managed to control my portions, and in the past I've only lost weight
when I've exercised huge amounts. I liked Atkins because I felt like
it was okay to eat lots of meat and cheese. I lost weight at first,
and to some extent I've kept it off, but I stopped losing weight after
two months or so. Being able to control portions really gives me a lot
of confidence in my future with this diet.

I started taking sugar water for the first few weeks, and saw rapid
weight loss, but I also got headaches, and would find myself tired
afterwards. Switched to ELOO a few weeks ago and have had better luck.
I had an occasional upset stomach after taking the oil at first, but
this has gradually gone away as I've gotten used to the oil.

Haven't tried any other oils, although the success people have had
with Canola oil is tempting. I guess I'm swayed by the whole
"Mediterranean diet" advantages of ELOO.

I've been weighing myself every day. I see pretty steady loss through
the week, with a bump upwards of 1-2 pounds on Sunday, which is my day
off from running. I find that plotting my daily weight loss is a good
motivation for me. Plus, I'm less likely to gorge myself if I know I
have a morning weigh in coming up.

After I dropped 10 pounds I upped my running times from 30 minutes/day
to 45 minutes/day, since I felt lighter and much less likely to injure
myself.

I typically eat 2 scrambled eggs with cheese for breakfast, and I find
that getting some protein in the morning is really essential for me.
Skipping breakfast, or having something high in carbs typically leaves
me hungry throughout the day, despite the ELOO. I take my morning dose
of ELOO 1-2 hours after breakfast. I normally eat an apple and some
carrots for lunch, whereas before I had a large lunch; this change has
been the primary difference in my eating habits. Have the afternoon
ELOO 1-2 hours after lunch. Then a sensible but by no means spartan
dinner.

Already I need to buy new pants, and have added two new holes to my
belt. I'm also excited about food and cooking for the first time in
years. The freedom from the Atkins-y restrictions has sparked my
interest in cooking again, and I've been making pesto and calzones and
all sorts of good stuff. I just eat sensibly now.

Just convinced my brother to give the diet a shot. My wife still
thinks that I'm crazy for "drinking oil".
Title: Re: RickM, 32 days, lost 18 pounds
Post by: splitbamboo on June 07, 2006, 03:55:16 PM
Congratulations. With stats like that it is funny that your wife is giving you a hard time.

Title: RickM, 34 days, lost 18 pounds
Post by: rickm on June 09, 2006, 04:13:50 AM
Still at the same weight two days later. I'm redoubling my efforts to reduce my portion sizes. One of the most interesting things I'm finding about the SLD is how it makes me re-examine my attitudes toward food. I feel like I'm entitled to overeat, entitled to have seconds at dinner, entitled to treat myself. I'm making a conscious effort to combat those feelings and only eat what I need.
Title: Re: RickM, 32 days, lost 18 pounds
Post by: rickm on June 09, 2006, 04:15:36 AM
Congratulations. With stats like that it is funny that your wife is giving you a hard time.



Splitbamboo - She knows my occasionally obsessive moods, and is probably just expressing a little healthy skepticism as her way of protecting me from myself.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, now 160 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 10, 2006, 08:48:02 AM
Weighed 160 this morning, down 2 pounds from yesterday. It salvaged a week in which I didn't lose anything, which was frustrating me since I did a better job of eating this week than I ever did before. Last weekend was the first time I didn't see a big spike upward in my weight caused by weekend overindulgence. So I thought it would be a good week, but then I didn't lose anything.

Typical me, though: I've had great success thus far, and the first time I have four consecutive days without a loss I panic and start worrying that I'm not going to lose anything more.

Made a big mistake yesterday. I normally have two scrambled eggs with cheese for breakfast, a holdover from my Atkins days. Yesterday I tried to cut back to one egg with no cheese, and this didn't leave me satisfied, even after my morning dose of ELOO. I was hungry and grumpy all day. I had gone on a 45 minute run before breakfast, and I think that the smaller breakfast just didn't give me enough energy afterwards. I ran 60 minutes this morning, had my normal two egg breakfast with cheese, and I feel fine now.

I guess I had been inspired by all of the posts here about how much everyone is counting their calories, so I tried to cut back. But in retrospect, I think I'm better off cutting back on dinner and working harder at leaving food on my plate.

Live and learn.
Title: Re: RickM, 34 days, lost 18 pounds
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 10, 2006, 09:36:13 AM
Still at the same weight two days later. I'm redoubling my efforts to reduce my portion sizes. One of the most interesting things I'm finding about the SLD is how it makes me re-examine my attitudes toward food. I feel like I'm entitled to overeat, entitled to have seconds at dinner, entitled to treat myself. I'm making a conscious effort to combat those feelings and only eat what I need.


You will hit plateaus, and eventually a place you want to stay for maintenance.  Waiting out the effects of the diet is an interesting lesson to learn, but patience works.

Lots of good posts over in the FAQ section, btw.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 12, 2006, 03:16:50 PM
159 pounds this morning. Starting to get hungry after taking the ELOO. Will switch to Canola oil.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs
Post by: mdc on June 12, 2006, 09:07:45 PM
Hey RickM,

That's terrific!

I just discovered you!  Remember to change the subject line on the 1st post - isn't it like "34 days 21 lbs" ?! 

Amazing!

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs
Post by: Will on June 12, 2006, 11:16:43 PM
rickm - you should post here more.  Your story sounds very impressive!   I am very curious to see your results over the next few months.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 158 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 13, 2006, 07:39:01 AM
Weighed 158 this morning!

Started doing a very short set of yoga in the evenings as well, mainly because I've been falling asleep at 8:30, and that cuts into my time with my wife. The yoga also helps with general fitness and flexibility.

Bought some canola oil last night at the store, but haven't taken my first dose yet.

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 158 lbs
Post by: barleyblair on June 13, 2006, 08:51:24 AM
I especially like what you said about your relationship to food: "I'm also excited about food and cooking for the first time in years."  I continued to cook and to be interested in food even at my fattest, but my interest was never whole-hearted, the way it had been when I was young and scrawny.  Now, suddenly, I can cook and eat with unadulterated pleasure.  I foresee a whole new generation of foodies, foodies who just plain love food, no guilt attached.

Keep us posted on your progress, RickM, it's so encouraging to share this experience with other people.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 157 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 14, 2006, 10:41:23 AM
157 pounds this morning. I realize I shouldn't get too excited about any day-to-day weight fluctuations, but I was frustrated last week when I was eating really well and didn't see any immediate results. Maybe they're finally paying off now.

So far I like the canola oil. Much less taste than the ELOO, and it seems to keep me a little more satisfied. But I shouldn't draw any conclusions until I've been on it for a few weeks.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 157 lbs
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 14, 2006, 08:42:46 PM
157 pounds this morning. I realize I shouldn't get too excited about any day-to-day weight fluctuations, but I was frustrated last week when I was eating really well and didn't see any immediate results. Maybe they're finally paying off now.

So far I like the canola oil. Much less taste than the ELOO, and it seems to keep me a little more satisfied. But I shouldn't draw any conclusions until I've been on it for a few weeks.


Neat.  Not to mention, as my mom points out (she is using canola and has lost twenty pounds on it), much cheaper too.

My goal is 159 (160.2 with a safety cushion) so you have met/beat my goal. ;)

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 16, 2006, 04:26:33 AM
Weighed 155 pounds this morning. The canola oil is working well, but it's still too early to tell.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 20, 2006, 11:36:21 AM
45 days in, and have lost a total of 25 pounds thus far.

Still at 155 lbs today. Made it through a weekend with lots of distractions (including ice cream cake and deep-dish pizza), and at least didn't gain anything. I lost 4 pounds last week, so I guess I'm due for a slow week this week anyway.

Forgot to take my oil this morning. Just had lunch, and will take my afternoon dose as usual. It will be interesting to see how my hunger changes, having missed the morning oil.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: jzkc on June 20, 2006, 03:11:52 PM
Forgot to take my oil this morning. Just had lunch, and will take my afternoon dose as usual. It will be interesting to see how my hunger changes, having missed the morning oil.

I do this frequently, too.  Don't necessarily forget, just that the schedule sometimes doesn't work out.  So I'll take the first dose in mid afternoon and the second one an hour after dinner in the evening.  If I end up getting dinner too late, then I brush my teeth right after I eat and then wait an hour for the oil.  Sometimes it's bedtime by then, but I still get the second dose of oil in.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 20, 2006, 06:21:42 PM
Turns out the whole skipping-the-morning-oil was not a good thing for me. Ended up crabby at the end of the day, and probably had a bit more dinner than I would have if I had my morning oil. Maybe I should have doubled up on my afternoon oil or something.

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 23, 2006, 04:36:23 PM
Argh. Not only am I plateau-ing, but I've put on a pound over the last two days. I know, I've had great luck thus far, and have nothing to complain about. I just keep telling myself that I'm eating really healthily, and am getting lots of exercise, but the sudden lack of success is a little frustrating.

I don't know whether it's good or bad, but I'm leaving for vacation now, to spend a couple of weeks with my wife's family. The good is that it will give me an opportunity to relax and enjoy being away from home, maybe not weigh myself every single day (although I suspect that I'll find a way). The bad is that I will have less control over what I can eat, and I'm feeling a little vulnerable.

Will probably be posting a little erratically for a while, but will check in with updates when I can.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: rickm on June 28, 2006, 02:34:32 PM
I'm on vacation this week, and have only limited web access, so I'll be brief. Am still at 155 lbs, which is a good thing, given the astonishingly delicious nature of my mother-in-law's fried eggplant. Happy and stable thus far. I have much less control over when I take oil this week, but this hasn't been that much of an issue for me. I figure I'll end up a few pounds heavier, and will just have to get more serious after this is all over.

Take care everyone.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: rickm on July 06, 2006, 04:46:08 AM
Back from vacation, and back to my pre-vacation plateau weight of 155 pounds. Back on sugar water for a while. Just couldn't take the canola oil any longer. I'll buy some more ELOO later this week and try that, since it does sate my appetite a bit better than the SW. Plus, I'm still getting occasional headaches and energy crashes after taking the SW. But I was getting a real physical aversion to taking the canola oil, and figured I'd listen to my body.

I have found that I'm less in Shangri-La than I had thought: although the SLD gives me a certain amount of resistance to overeating, when faced with large amounts of delicious food I'm still tempted to go back for seconds and thirds and...
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: rickm on July 10, 2006, 08:59:10 AM
...and still at 155 lbs today. This has been quite some plateau! Almost a solid month.

I did a week of sugar water last week, since I had gotten a real revulsion to canola oil. The SW was a nice break, but I had the same problems as before (headaches, fatigue, etc.), and I'm back on ELOO as of yesterday. Still find ELOO much more satisfying than SW.


Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 154 lbs
Post by: rickm on July 11, 2006, 11:30:49 AM
154 pounds this morning -- the first weight loss I've had in weeks. Obviously, I don't yet know whether this is the start of more loss or just a blip, but I'm feeling pretty good.

I've been changing my eating a little bit, adding a few more calories from nuts and trail mix to the diet. Have also started taking Omega-3 fish oil pills.

I've been running harder as well. I put some speed work into my longer, flatter runs, and it is both making my workouts more interesting as well as making me much more tired at the end.

Rick
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 153 lbs
Post by: rickm on July 13, 2006, 10:23:11 AM
153 pounds this morning. After several weeks without losing anything, I'm now down to 153, which is down 2 pounds this week. I don't know whether the loss this week is because of my recent changes (see below) or just the natural pace of the diet. Either way, I'm stoked.

The main change is that, after reading http://www.fantastic-voyage.net/, I've put more nuts into my diet, and have cut back on sugar and sugar water. The other change is that I've put some speed works into my normally slow runs, which has increased the exertion on those runs considerably.

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 152 lbs
Post by: rickm on July 14, 2006, 07:56:58 AM
Down again to 152 pounds this morning; this week has been a nice surprise after several plateau weeks.

I'm working on eating a variety of foods now. I typically glom onto one food and have seconds (and occasionally thirds) for dinner; I'm now trying to eat more and more different foods, a little pasta, a little vegetables, a little fruit, etc. I just ordered "Eat, Drink, Be Healthy", which Seth recommended, and I'm looking forward to learning a little more about current theory on nutrition. I've been successful enough under the SLD that I've shifted my focus from losing weight to eating as healthily as possible.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 152 lbs
Post by: Ann H on July 14, 2006, 08:11:45 AM
I love reading all your regular posts, Rick! Congrats on your success and thanks for taking the time to leave a "digital trail". :)    Cheers, Ann H
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 152 lbs
Post by: rickm on July 18, 2006, 10:20:18 AM
Still at 152 today. I've started to relax my eating on the weekends a bit more, so I'm glad I'm not gaining weight with that experiment. All is still going well. I think I mentioned that I'm taking ~2 g of fish oil pills with my morning oil to increase my omega-3 fatty acids. Have also started taking more vitamins. I'm now taking a multivitamin, C, E and a baby aspirin every day as well. Feeling good, but maybe that's just a placebo effect.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 152 lbs
Post by: Charms on July 22, 2006, 07:32:25 PM
Rick,
When you started off with the sugar water, were you using fructose or sucrose(regular white table sugar)?
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 152 lbs
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 24, 2006, 11:31:35 AM
I'm glad you've started down from the plateau. I was thinking all kinds of crazy things the month I lost no weight.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: rickm on July 26, 2006, 11:14:00 AM
Just as I was getting prepared for a long plateau at 152 (since that's the way the past two weeks seemed to have gone), I dropped down two pounds at my weigh-in this morning. Nice surprise.

Charms: I was using sucrose in my sugar water. I really did like drinking warm water throughout the day, but the insulin spikes were just too much for me. I've switched to just drinking hot water, and I'm really enjoying that.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: rickm on August 01, 2006, 02:29:47 PM
Experimented with taking a weekend off from oil. I'm within 10 lbs of my goal (140) now, and am experimenting a bit to see what other options feel like for me.

On the whole it went quite well. I didn't really feel all that much more hungry. However, I find I did eat too much during Sunday night's dinner (actually, it was the standing around and snacking before dinner that was the problem). I haven't yet decided whether this shows that my attitudes toward food still need to mature a bit, or that I still need the oil on the weekends.
 
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: rickm on August 08, 2006, 07:38:10 AM
Wow, has it really been 3 months? In that time I've lost 30 pounds. What a great diet!

I still have a hard time eating sensibly without flavorless calories, and I've been going off of them on the weekends to attack my unhealthy eating tendencies and learn how to stop eating a little bit sooner. So far I'm only so-so at it.

I'm also taking a week off from ELOO and going to sugar water for a while. I find that changing my type of flavorless calories every few weeks helps keep the program fresh for me.

Been reading books about nutrition, as well. Thus far my favorites have been "Eat, Drink, Be Healthy", which Seth recommends in one of his interviews, and "Fantastic Voyage" (which really isn't a book about nutrition alone), which is a little out there, but still a fun ride.

That's all from here.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: Ann H on August 08, 2006, 08:08:12 AM
Neat, Rick! A big fat--er, skinny--congrats on that 30 pounds lost! Well done! :)
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on August 08, 2006, 10:16:15 AM
Neat, Rick! A big fat--er, skinny--congrats on that 30 pounds lost! Well done! :)

And congrats for reaching 150.  That is neat.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: rickm on August 09, 2006, 09:18:46 AM
Ann and Ethesis: Thanks for the kind words. I've been really lucky thus far with the diet.

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on August 09, 2006, 04:31:32 PM
Ann and Ethesis: Thanks for the kind words. I've been really lucky thus far with the diet.



It is so easy it feels like luck, doesn't it.  When you get into the 40s it will feel like you've been doing it forever, then there is a break through and it just feels like second nature.

It still feels neat though.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 150 lbs
Post by: rickm on August 10, 2006, 09:50:22 AM

It is so easy it feels like luck, doesn't it.  When you get into the 40s it will feel like you've been doing it forever, then there is a break through and it just feels like second nature.

It still feels neat though.


I say "luck" since I've followed other people's progress, and some people seem to be working hard without losing any weight. I feel very fortunate to have had this diet work so well for me.

I sometimes wonder why I've lost weight when other people haven't. I think there are two reasons. (1) I'm very good at staying on restrictive regimens, it's free choice that I have problems with; thus, keeping to a restricted diet itself isn't all that hard for me. What's hard for me is the weekends, when I relax things a bit. (2) I was already 9 months into a daily running routine when I started, so I was already burning calories, and just needed to restrict intake a bit.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 148 lbs
Post by: rickm on August 14, 2006, 10:26:55 AM
Dipped into the 140's for the first time this weekend. My goal weight is 140, so I'm getting close. I've been staying with the sugar water this week. It doesn't banish hunger as well as oil does for me, but I find I lose weight more quickly with it.  That sounds contradictory, I realize, but it's what I've found thus far.

I've been doing the diet for 101 days now.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 148 lbs
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on August 14, 2006, 10:33:29 AM
Dipped into the 140's for the first time this weekend. My goal weight is 140, so I'm getting close. I've been staying with the sugar water this week. It doesn't banish hunger as well as oil does for me, but I find I lose weight more quickly with it.  That sounds contradictory, I realize, but it's what I've found thus far.

I've been doing the diet for 101 days now.


Congrats.  Guess you will make it to the maintenance board before I do.  That is going to be a great thread.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 148 lbs
Post by: rickm on August 30, 2006, 11:38:57 AM
Still at 148, but I'm pretty happy with the way things are going. I started using Canola Oil again, since I was getting hungry on the Sugar Water alone. I find that switching flavorless calorie sources every few weeks has worked well for me thus far. Canola Oil sates my hunger much more.

I also found that the amount of food that I was eating for lunch had been creeping upwards, so I've cut back to essentially just a snack, and then have another snack as I'm driving home from work, so I'm not as hungry for dinner.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 148 lbs
Post by: CarolS on August 30, 2006, 02:49:26 PM
Dude you blew past me to 148!  My goal is 140 too.  I understand about feeling hungry and losing.  That happens to me too.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 155 lbs
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on August 30, 2006, 08:27:19 PM
45 days in, and have lost a total of 25 pounds thus far.

Still at 155 lbs today. Made it through a weekend with lots of distractions (including ice cream cake and deep-dish pizza), and at least didn't gain anything. I lost 4 pounds last week, so I guess I'm due for a slow week this week anyway.

Forgot to take my oil this morning. Just had lunch, and will take my afternoon dose as usual. It will be interesting to see how my hunger changes, having missed the morning oil.


Wish you luck and look forward to your next report.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on September 14, 2006, 10:41:14 AM
I've decided to follow Ethesis's lead and declare maintenance on the SLD. I've now lost 34 pounds, and I think I'll now start focusing on maintaining my current weight rather than losing any more.

Just had my blood pressure and cholesterol checked, and both are outstanding, so I'm feeling pretty good about life in general. I think I'm healthier now than I have been at any point since high school.

Currently trying out fish oil pills for my flavorless calories, around 10 x 1000 mg pills once in the morning. We'll see if that's enough to keep my hunger down.

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: frenata on September 14, 2006, 11:07:45 AM
Awright! Congratulations! Be sure to drop in from time to time and tell us stories about maintenance.

It would be a real pain to take that many capsules at once, for me. Have you tried the liquid fish oil? Pinch your nose shut and you can't taste it, though most of them have orange or lemon added and don't taste that bad.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on September 14, 2006, 11:12:37 AM
I've decided to follow Ethesis's lead and declare maintenance on the SLD. I've now lost 34 pounds, and I think I'll now start focusing on maintaining my current weight rather than losing any more.

Just had my blood pressure and cholesterol checked, and both are outstanding, so I'm feeling pretty good about life in general. I think I'm healthier now than I have been at any point since high school.

Currently trying out fish oil pills for my flavorless calories, around 10 x 1000 mg pills once in the morning. We'll see if that's enough to keep my hunger down.



Not to mention, I'm curious how your next physical goes.  I've finally got mine scheduled and will report what my doctor has to say.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: girljedi on September 14, 2006, 12:30:09 PM
Congratulations, RickM!  Good for you! :D
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on September 15, 2006, 10:17:26 AM

Not to mention, I'm curious how your next physical goes.  I've finally got mine scheduled and will report what my doctor has to say.

Well, since you asked...

Blood pressure: 100/68
Cholesterol: 140 (total), 47 (HDL), 76 (LDL)

Very pleased with this. Before starting, my total cholesterol was 170-something. I'd like to see the HDL levels a bit higher. Hopefully the fish oil pills will help.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on September 15, 2006, 10:19:09 AM
It would be a real pain to take that many capsules at once, for me. Have you tried the liquid fish oil? Pinch your nose shut and you can't taste it, though most of them have orange or lemon added and don't taste that bad.

Just can't do oil anymore. Can't do it. I'm only taking 10 pills of the fish oil, and I take them in batches of 3, so it isn't too bad. I'll keep everyone posted on how it goes.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: rosekelly on September 15, 2006, 11:33:51 AM
I take my fish oil in capsules, twelve at one sitting, and it doesn't bother me. Three or four at once, down the hatch. I have a big mouth, I guess. Or a big gullet.

Rose
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on September 27, 2006, 02:41:41 PM
Nothing much to report, but thought I should check in, since it has been a while. Maintenance is going well. I'm still taking 10 x 1000 mg fish oil pills in the morning, and have been holding my weight steady at or around 146. A little bit hungrier, and I've had to bring a bit more food for lunch every day. So far, so good!
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: TalkingRat on September 27, 2006, 02:46:16 PM

Thanks, Rick, for keeping us updated!  So cool for you to be at maintenance level.   8)
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: frenata on September 27, 2006, 02:48:41 PM
I'm particularly pleased to hear that you've got a bit of appetite back, but you've kept the maintenance weight. I would like to be free of the burden of craving, but allow myself a little more of the pleasure of food. Once I shed a bit more of this weight, of course.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on October 11, 2006, 12:00:44 PM
Thought I would check in. Over the past week I've gone to very low doses of Sugar Water, and I find it works very well. While trying to lose weight on the SLD, I was doing either 2 doses of 10 (1000 mg) fish oil pills daily, or two doses of 2 tablespoons of sugar in a cup of hot water daily. When initially moving onto maintenance, I just cut back to a single dose of the fish oil pills. However, I've had something of a revelation. The past few days I've just been taking 1 teaspoon (= 1/3 tablespoon) of sugar in a cup of hot water, twice daily. This controls my appetite much better than the fish oil pills, plus gives me something nice to drink at work.

At 1/3 tablespoon per (large) mug, there is much less of a sweet taste to the water. But I find that it keeps me satisfied all morning.

IIRC, Seth chose the name "Shangri-La" because he felt that tasteless calories kept one from having to think about food and a diet all of the time. Whilst on fish oil maintenance, I didn't feel like I was in Shangri La; I didn't put on any weight, but I found myself thinking about food much of the time. Now that I'm on very low doses of sugar water, I'm finding myself back in Shangri-La again.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: tekayla on October 13, 2006, 11:53:53 AM
Congrats on reaching maintenance RickM   Way to go!!!

Kayla
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: BarbH on October 13, 2006, 04:10:54 PM
  Congratulations.  Thanks for checking back in.  Hope you'll continue to share your experiences with maintenance.  - BarbH
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: widdlemama on October 20, 2006, 09:21:38 PM
18 pounds in 32 days!!!! WOW GReat job
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 146 and on maintenance
Post by: timmmmyboy on October 29, 2006, 06:48:26 AM
Congratulations rickm! I'm glad to hear the diet has worked so well for you. I just started a week ago and I'm having great success so far. I'd like to encourage you to post a before and after picture in this thread (http://boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=2972.0) if you're not too shy/uncomfortable with it. Some block out their faces which is fine. I think it will definitely help others to see the effects of this diet, not just reading about them. Of course if you're uncomfortable posting pictures, that's fine. Congratulations again!
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 149 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on July 16, 2007, 08:49:05 AM
It's been a while, and I thought I would check in again. I'm still at my goal weight, more than one year later. I've fallen off the wagon several times, but usually it has only taken a few days of careful eating to get back onto the diet. In my last fall from grace, I had a couple of weeks of birthday celebrations, and ended up shooting up to 158 lbs. I decided to go back on the full oil dosage (ELOO in the morning, fish oil pills in the afternoon), and fairly quickly dropped back down again.

Exercising a great deal still (bicycle commuting and running). In a way that's a good thing, in that it has let me keep my weight down. But in a way this is also a bad thing: if I put on weight at this level of exertion, I can't simply start exercising more to get it off.

What I've realized through the SLD is that I *really* like to eat, too much so for my own good. Left to my own, with a box of Cheez-Its or cookies, I'll keep eating until I'm gorged. The SLD helps put me out of the mood to eat.

The ELOO/Fish oil combo is good. I've noticed the fish oil has helped my overall mood (or, I noticed my mood getting much worse when I stopped taking the pills), and I like the effect that ELOO has on my skin.

Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 149 and on maintenance
Post by: Ann H on July 16, 2007, 08:56:22 AM
Neat Rick! Thanks so much for the update! Congrats and great to hear from you!
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 149 and on maintenance
Post by: rickm on July 21, 2008, 07:57:34 AM
Thought I would check in again, since it has been about one year since I last posted. I went off flavorless calories for most of the past year, and, sure enough, I've slowly gained around 15 pounds. I stepped on the scale yesterday (eek! 165!) and decided to go back on ELOO for a few months until I'm back at a more respectable weight.
Title: Re: RickM, started 5/6/06 at 180 lbs, today 149 and on maintenance
Post by: melissar on August 06, 2008, 01:31:38 PM
Hey Rick,

How is it going now?  CURIOUS!  Thinking that oil and water will pretty much be a way of life for me as I have been on a yoyo since having babies.

I don't think I mind doing oil and water for the rest of my life just have fit it in the right spot.