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Title: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 02, 2006, 10:15:58 PM
I started at 242 pounds. I'm a vegetarian who eats healthy foods of many ethnicities. But I ate three helpings at a sitting. First week, we (my husband aka Stink Ape, also a veggie and also with 40+ pounds to lose) used ELOO. I was a little nauseated after, Stink Ape not at all. We both experienced sharp reductions in appetite and cravings by day three. At the beginning of the second week, I was at 238. I weigh on Mondays and have now been 234, 230 and 226 on successive Mondays. I sometimes sneak and weigh during the week and can be up and down as much as 3-4 pounds from the Monday weight. I know the galloping 4 pounds a week pace is unlikely to stay forever, but wow! So gratifying.

Previously, we might eat dinner at 7:30, then eat enough for another full dinner a few hours later. Stink Ape took baggies of veggies, fruit and pretzels to work and snacked all day. I have hypoglycemia and hypothyroidism and Stink is diabetic. We have had a few days with some light headed moments, but unlike every other time I ate restricted calories, I have had no hypoglycemic attacks. Stink's numbers are great, but his diabetes was already controlled.

We switched to canola because the mouth feel was less viscous to me. Stink found no difference. We drink 2 TBS oil upon arising, wait at least an hour, usually more for me, and have breakfast. We eat lunch, then around 6-7, we take the second dose of oil. We eat a tasty but small dinner and are done for the day. We're night owls, so sometimes we eat dinner at 6 and are still up and hungry again at midnight, but a very small snack will suffice. Most evenings we're not hungry again at all. The oil calories we consume are on the high side, but I want to lose 85 pounds eventually and Stink could lose that much. He's  6'5", so he carries it better! I tried taking less and found my appetite not suppressed sufficiently.

My grocery bill is lower. I love to cook and was already making most everything fresh every night anyway. Few processed foods, no sugar, but we already didn't eat sugar. I'm exercising every day (DDR and SLD=the geek's weightloss system!) and have a weird feeling that I'm calling "creeping euphoria."

I'll update weekly.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Ann H on June 02, 2006, 10:59:11 PM
Hooray, Rabin! Congrats and good luck!

I'm surprised how many of us are vegetarians or whole fooders who already ate very healthy and very diverse diets. (And yet got fat! :) ) I'm one too, and have encountered at least 7 other posters. I think the number here is greater than a percentage that is representative of the population.

Anyway, on another tangent... I'm looking for DDR here as well. Do you have the Play Station one or the TV one? How is it? Fun? Good enough exercise? Would it be doable for a mom with little kids? (I'm hoping they might jump along as well..) I'd love to hear more!

Cheers,
Ann H
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 02, 2006, 11:48:47 PM
I use a PS 2. I bought the cheapest DDR game and mat I could find. Game had to have a workout mode because I really, really sucked at first. Within a month, I was playing 2-3 times a day, so I bought the $20 mat! I usually do 45 minutes straight now. I still use the light mode and only switch to medium sometimes. I'm absolutely a total newb, but it's the first time I've ever found an exercise that engaged my brain so I'm not completely bored in 5 minutes.

I'm sure little kids could jump around with you. I took three days and slowly and carefully did all the instructional lessons. At one point I thought it had been too long since I took dance to move with any alacrity again, but I can shuffle along fairly briskly now. And I cannot emphasize enough the difference for me in having something for my brain to do while I sweat and grunt.

The vegetarian thing is interesting. We both have been for a dozen years or more. I wonder if the fact that we've already made a huge leap into non-traditional ( by American standards) eating made us more willing to try "oiling up" daily?
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: bekel on June 03, 2006, 12:52:04 AM
My son has been (doing? playing? dancing?) DDR in preparation for his PT test for the National Guard, and he dropped 2 minutes on his run. DDR was the ONLY PT he was doing--about 45 minutes 3 or 4 times a week.

I've been intrigued but I refuse to try it when he can catch me on the mat.  :shock: I'm waiting until he leaves for the summer for Ft. Benning to steal it.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Seth Roberts on June 03, 2006, 04:03:07 AM
In a seminar of mine on weight control we discussed DDR. Mainly me asking my students about its popularity. I thought it was an exciting new approach to physical fitness. This little discussion may have convinced me to buy one.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Ann H on June 03, 2006, 04:55:59 AM
Yep, I'm convinced, too. Even if I have to buy the Play Station to go with it (though that will suck my husband back to his teenage years within SECONDS if I don't keep it under lock and key :) ).

You're funnee, Bekel!! :)

Yeah, Rabin, I've been a veggie/ethinc-foods-eater/wholefooder for over a dozen years as well. And unconventional in other significant ways. I also had thought that there are relatively so many of us unconventional eater types here because we are more open-minded (throated?) on food and health matters, and perhaps also more web-savvy / educated, than most standard American dieters. I was also surprised to see that so many of us got fat without eating crap: and this is a relief, as now I know I'm not the only person fat on tabouli and soymilk.

Thanks for the DDR stuff! And keep posting: it will be great to keep reading your progress!

Cheers,
Ann H
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 04, 2006, 05:56:43 AM
My son has been (doing? playing? dancing?) DDR in preparation for his PT test for the National Guard, and he dropped 2 minutes on his run. DDR was the ONLY PT he was doing--about 45 minutes 3 or 4 times a week.

I've been intrigued but I refuse to try it when he can catch me on the mat.  :shock: I'm waiting until he leaves for the summer for Ft. Benning to steal it.

I got DDR for the kids (it and Kingdom Hearts are the games they play on it).  Did not realize it was that good of a work-out.

This is an interesting thread.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 05, 2006, 05:58:44 PM
Today's news:  I can now do 45 minutes of DDR at standard rather than light and I "only" lost a pound. My Monday morning weight was 225. I had some trouble with vague cravings this weekend, but various diet sodas sufficed.

We bought shot glasses with ounces marked so we can eliminate the tablespoon at least for awhile. And I bought some 4 oz aluminum bottles to carry a few doses in for work and travel.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: julienuce on June 05, 2006, 09:05:09 PM
Ann H -  DDR is kind of frustrating with little kids, unless you can get them to sit on the couch and watch you and then let them have their turn. My little crazies jump all over the mat while I am trying to be all 'serious' and in exercise mode, and end up cancelling it mid stream, or some other thing that gets annoying. Mine has been in the closet now for months. But it is SOOOO fun and while not great exercise, it is really good for a laugh, and for general coordination. Plus, when you actually get the steps down you kind of feel like a hipster, instead of a rythym-less beluga whale (thats me!!!!!).
My 5 year old isnt big enough to reach the pads quickly enough yet, and not yet coordinated enough, so he gets bored with it after a while. But with a hubby or a friend Oh it is so much fun. To get the full effect you really need to go to an arcade and witness asian teenage boys DDR'ing. I stood jaw to the floor for 2 hours in the mall once watching these lightening fast boys sweating it up to the wierdest music and wierdest moves I have ever seen. Hilarious
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 06, 2006, 04:49:11 AM
Today's news:  I can now do 45 minutes of DDR at standard rather than light and I "only" lost a pound. My Monday morning weight was 225. I had some trouble with vague cravings this weekend, but various diet sodas sufficed.

We bought shot glasses with ounces marked so we can eliminate the tablespoon at least for awhile. And I bought some 4 oz aluminum bottles to carry a few doses in for work and travel.

I'm still trying to find a good shot glass.  Any recommendations of a place to find them?  I tried a package store and some grocery stores.  (You can tell I've never bought one before, I'm a little clueless sometimes).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 06, 2006, 06:34:51 AM
Stephen, we bought this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000959GD/qid=1149600739/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-9605666-0033463?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=284507.

Looks like we got the last three, though...
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 06, 2006, 10:32:54 AM
Nope, they just sold me one. :)
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: bekel on June 06, 2006, 07:19:07 PM
Reading this reminded me that I have a Fleet Buffered Laxative phospho-soda shot glass. My daddy gave it to me--he thought it was funny that I had a Fleet Enema glass. :D

It measures up to 2 T (8 teaspoons) and ounces after that to 3 oz. I didn't know that 2 T was an ounce (I was too busy scoping out the cute guys in my Home Ec class...)
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Sherrie on June 06, 2006, 07:48:08 PM
I am convinced. I bought one.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 07, 2006, 04:36:25 AM
Reading this reminded me that I have a Fleet Buffered Laxative phospho-soda shot glass. My daddy gave it to me--he thought it was funny that I had a Fleet Enema glass. :D

It measures up to 2 T (8 teaspoons) and ounces after that to 3 oz. I didn't know that 2 T was an ounce (I was too busy scoping out the cute guys in my Home Ec class...)

That is neat (the glass, not paying attention to the wrong thing in class  8) )
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 09, 2006, 09:33:04 PM
It's not my weigh in day, but I weighed anyway and I'm two pounds up. It's funny, no matter how heavy I got (And I've been adding 7-8 pounds a year for about 13 years), I never weighed myself much. I learned to love my zaftig/fat ass self. Even now, I'm not going for thin- I just want to be less fat.

Now that the scale is moving steadily downward, I weigh myself all the damn time. And the fluctuations are hard, even though intellectually I understand the reasons and know that it's to be expected.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 10, 2006, 08:15:19 AM
It's not my weigh in day, but I weighed anyway and I'm two pounds up. It's funny, no matter how heavy I got (And I've been adding 7-8 pounds a year for about 13 years), I never weighed myself much. I learned to love my zaftig/fat ass self. Even now, I'm not going for thin- I just want to be less fat.

Now that the scale is moving steadily downward, I weigh myself all the damn time. And the fluctuations are hard, even though intellectually I understand the reasons and know that it's to be expected.

Amen.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: barleyblair on June 11, 2006, 02:44:00 PM
I've figured out that for me once a day is too many weigh-ins and once a week is too few.  So I'm weighing myself every five or six days, on dates that end with a 1 or a 6.  If two days in a row end with a 1 (e.g. May 31st and June 1st) I weigh myself on the second of the two.

The day before I weigh myself finds me in a great state of excitement -- rather a new attitude for me about anything having to do with my weight.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 12, 2006, 11:59:02 AM
Weight was 226 this morning. I will heave a sigh of relief when this plateau is finished. I remind myself that I'm 16 pounds lighter than I was 7 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Ann H on June 12, 2006, 08:31:46 PM
Hey, Rabin, just for fun, you might try celebrating that -16 pounds. When I lost 18, I stacked up enough books on the scake to get 18 pounds. This brought immense exultation. :) Might be useful, to realize how very much you've lost, and to lighten your spirit.

Cheers,
Ann H
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 13, 2006, 05:13:36 AM
Weight was 226 this morning. I will heave a sigh of relief when this plateau is finished. I remind myself that I'm 16 pounds lighter than I was 7 weeks ago.

Man, I've been on a plateau for almost a week, finally down half a pound.  On the other hand, I'm down about ten pounds from last month.  But the plateaus take some getting used to.

I have dropped another pants size, just bought my first pair of 32" waist pants and some 32" belts.  But my weight and my waist seem to be a little out of sync.  Both shrinking, just not necessarily at the same time.

Keeping records and looking at the cycle (and being aware of it) has made it easier on me, though I still would rather do without plateaus.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: barleyblair on June 13, 2006, 09:10:00 AM
Ann H says: "When I lost 18, I stacked up enough books on the scale to get 18 pounds."  This is a fabulous idea!  You should put it up on Tips & Innovations -- and I intend to try it myself at my next weigh-in (the 16th).
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 13, 2006, 10:45:53 AM
Thanks for the pep talk! Good idea, Ann. A friend was saying today that she had "only" lost 24 pounds and someone said "Hey, it's like you lost a toddler!"
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Ann H on June 13, 2006, 10:33:05 PM
Ya, I had "lost" my baby in weight. This meant a lot to me: now I can carry her and still be putting only the same amount of stress on my knees, feet, heart, etc as I had WITHOUT holding her before!!! And she is a big old chunk: it really is a great feeling.

Once I get this consulting project "tamed" (right now I have to eat for energy and so my weight is just stable) I'll start losing again and hope to get down to where I can carry my four-year-old and be at my original weight. That'll be -40 pounds. :) He might grow faster than I can lose, though! We'll see: at least I can "keep up" with my baby as she grows until she's 3 or so. :)

Cheers,
Ann H
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on June 15, 2006, 04:26:54 PM
Ann H says: "When I lost 18, I stacked up enough books on the scale to get 18 pounds."  This is a fabulous idea!  You should put it up on Tips & Innovations -- and I intend to try it myself at my next weigh-in (the 16th).


I'm going to stack some books ...
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 15, 2006, 10:21:54 PM
225 three days in a row- I'll take it!

I'm experimenting with my times on the oil. Stink Ape and I do just about everything together, but we seem to have different rhythms when it comes to the oil. I think I need to take my second dose later in the day or I get munchy about 11 pm or so. Also, we're paying close attention to the different food needs on different days. Some days it feels I hardly need to eat a thing.

ETA just tried on some dresses that I couldn't wear last summer. They fit perfectly! I must wear them in the next few months, though, because they won't fit for long....
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on June 30, 2006, 08:13:51 PM
Wow. A busy and crazy couple of weeks. I only dropped a pound- 224- but that's fine because we were at a wedding over the weekend, then a family funeral for the week following that. Food was crappy and exercise was difficult. We're both back on track with no loss of ground. I'm ready to drop a few more though; I've been flirting with 224 for about 3 weeks.

I missed you guys!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 02, 2006, 11:50:34 PM
Switched to grapeseed oil today. No taste and good appetite suppression. I'm still noodling with my times, but I only work part time and I work one night a week, so my days are very erratically scheduled. I think it might be better in the long run that my flavorless calorie intake time is all over the map, but it does make planning meals and being spontaneous tricky sometimes
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 04, 2006, 08:26:56 PM
223 two days in a row and appetite supression is back on track. That's 19 pounds donw total.  I started taking my oil with fizzy water and no longer have nausea. I also changed to grapeseed in the morning and canola at night. I'm trying the early am/late pm dosing schedule. I had been on an early am/evening schedule and plateaued for what seemed like years!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 05, 2006, 09:43:13 PM
This post is really about Stink Ape's weightloss, not mine. He doesn't weigh himself, so we have no idea how much he's lost. He's 6'5" and was likely close to 350 lbs. I'm 5'4". When we hug, I wrap my arms around him and can juuuust touch my fingertips in the small of his back. Tonight, I stood up and threw my arms around him and clasped my hands fully together. I suddenly realized what I was doing and squeezed him tighter and yelled some thing deliriously excited.  We were pretty stoked.

Now to go all fan boy: Seth, I feel as if SLD has added years to our lives already. Thank you.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Seth Roberts on July 05, 2006, 09:57:30 PM
You're welcome, Rabin.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Ann H on July 05, 2006, 11:59:56 PM
Awesome, Rabin!! May he shrink down to "Stink Monkey" being a more suitable moniker! :wink:
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat, 5 weeks on SLD
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on July 10, 2006, 08:17:16 PM
This post is really about Stink Ape's weightloss, not mine. He doesn't weigh himself, so we have no idea how much he's lost. He's 6'5" and was likely close to 350 lbs. I'm 5'4". When we hug, I wrap my arms around him and can juuuust touch my fingertips in the small of his back. Tonight, I stood up and threw my arms around him and clasped my hands fully together. I suddenly realized what I was doing and squeezed him tighter and yelled some thing deliriously excited.  We were pretty stoked.

Now to go all fan boy: Seth, I feel as if SLD has added years to our lives already. Thank you.

That is how my kids feel about me.

BTW, just moved to 16.5 inch neck, trim fit shirts from Lands End.

Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 11, 2006, 10:25:06 AM
222 yesterday, which makes 20 pounds total. I've almost finished a bottle of grapeseed oil and now plan to try coconut. My appetite supression with grapeseed seemed weak at first, but has kicked in well the last 4-5 days.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Jenn on July 11, 2006, 04:28:20 PM
I think that when we switch oils it takes a couple of days for the full adjustment to kick in,
I recently changed to ELOO, and had a little less suppression the last couple of days.  Was using Canola.  We will see.
  I am so thrilled to see your husbands and your progress. It is stories like yours that give us all encouragement!

Jenn
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 16, 2006, 12:52:33 PM
I continue to be struck by the amount of food it takes me to feel full these days. I was at a soup and salad buffet yesterday and ate half the portion of potato salad I got, about 1/3 of  cup.  I'm also learning, now that I'm free from unending appetite, how to leave things uneaten if they don't taste great and like exactly what I'm hungry for.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 17, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
Monday morning weigh in- 220 pounds! That's 22 lost. Last week I had 2 days of very low calories and two of high calories. Well, high for me these days. I wasn't deliberately doing The Wendie Plan, but it seems to have nudged some pounds lose.

http://www.stormpc.com/ww/wendie_plan.htm
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: bekel on July 18, 2006, 02:26:00 PM
Huh.

I hadn't heard of that, but that's kinda what happened with meals while I was at my mothers.

*scratches head*

I'll have to look at that and see if that works for me. Can't hurt. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 24, 2006, 09:56:04 AM
219 today. Many of my clothes are very loose. I'm quite excited about that.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Ann H on July 24, 2006, 10:05:19 AM
Jia you! Jia you!

Well done, Rabin!!!            Ann H
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: BarbH on July 24, 2006, 10:24:15 AM
That's super!  A sign of more good things to come.

Best - BarbH
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 29, 2006, 01:22:58 PM
218 as of Friday. All is going well. I'm a few days away from three months. I've lost 24 pounds in 3 months. My friend who is doing WW is bored and hungry and beginning to gain again. I will try again to talk her into Shangri-la.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: BarbH on July 29, 2006, 03:24:42 PM
Congratulations!  You've done a great job.  I know what you mean about WW - Me & WW go back at least 35 years, in & out, up & down.  Always a struggle.  I hope your friend gives this a try.  It makes it all so easy.  No more struggles or points or best of all, no more cheating.  (big joke in WW)

I'll bet your success will convince them.

Best - BarbH


Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: julienuce on July 29, 2006, 05:47:01 PM
Thw wendie plan thing was interesting to read. I have never done WW - too much figuring for me, but I do count calories. Lately I have been eating 2-3 days really low cal around 1000-1100, and then kind of binge eating for one day up to 1700-2000 calories. I thought for sure doing this would cause me to gain, but paradoxically I have lost another 0.5 pound. Kind of strange, but it feels sort of good to eat like that. I will keep you posted as to how it really works in the overall scheme.
Rabin the Cat you are doing great! I loved your post about hugging your husband and clasping your hands. I could see you guys in my mind gleefully hugging and jumping for joy!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: Stink Ape is shrinking!
Post by: Rabin the Cat on July 31, 2006, 08:51:32 PM
Thanks for the move, Seth! 216 both yesterday and today. I believe the last week counts as a whoosh. And I've now been an SLDer for three months and have lost 26 pounds. Let's see, call it 12 weeks, that's more than two pounds a week, yes? Well, it's probably closer to 14 weeks. Still awesome and wonderful and empowering.

I talked with my mother today. She is looking trim and fit and wearing her shirts tucked in again. She has lost 20 pounds in six months the old-fashioned way, down to 150 from 170.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: Rabin the Cat on August 18, 2006, 09:19:29 AM
I'm at 215 today. Pre-SLD, I would have gained 10 pounds over the last ten days. Sunday August 7, we awoke to find our garage, basement and well house flooded. The basement and wellhouse were completely full of water from floor to ceiling. We lost hundreds of books (boxed in the garage) heirloom furniture in the basement, photos, scrapbooks, computer equipment- almost everything in the basement was unsalvageable. And the rains have continued, so we were trying to clean up and stop more flooding at the same time. We have flood insurance, but you know how fast insurance people work. It's been an awful time and and it's not over yet.

But the good news is, we continued to take our oil at least once a day; though we ate oddly and badly and sporadically. I ate more sugar than usual. We even took a quick necessary overnight out of town and all the time SLD controlled our cravings and suppressed our appetites. Even with all the stress eating, I not only did not gain, I lost one more pound.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on August 18, 2006, 10:56:30 AM
I'm at 215 today. Pre-SLD, I would have gained 10 pounds over the last ten days. Sunday August 7, we awoke to find our garage, basement and well house flooded. The basement and wellhouse were completely full of water from floor to ceiling. We lost hundreds of books (boxed in the garage) heirloom furniture in the basement, photos, scrapbooks, computer equipment- almost everything in the basement was unsalvageable. And the rains have continued, so we were trying to clean up and stop more flooding at the same time. We have flood insurance, but you know how fast insurance people work. It's been an awful time and and it's not over yet.

But the good news is, we continued to take our oil at least once a day; though we ate oddly and badly and sporadically. I ate more sugar than usual. We even took a quick necessary overnight out of town and all the time SLD controlled our cravings and suppressed our appetites. Even with all the stress eating, I not only did not gain, I lost one more pound.

Neat, very neat.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: CarolS on August 18, 2006, 11:30:45 AM
Okay only a fellow SLDr would say neat after that post  :D

Rabin sorry to hear about all the lost posessions.  I am a saver too - as my mom was getting ready to move - she would throw it out - i get it out of the trash (sentimental value). 

Good luck with the insurance and congrats on the 1 lb loss.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: Seth Roberts on August 18, 2006, 11:39:40 AM
it is kind of awesome to me that SLD could counter the effect -- even if only the mental effect -- of a force of nature. On the face of it that's what civilization is all about, counter-acting nature, but SLD is just a book that's been out a few months.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: zerimar on August 18, 2006, 11:51:41 AM
My house burned  15 ( not 25 like I wrote) years ago, so I can relate, especially about books and family treasures.  Red Cross came (because many houses burned) and kept telling us to EAT!  They said, depending on your level of distress, you may not be taking in what you need to support all the stress you're experiencing--weird to even write, since we're all trying NOT to eat....sticking with SLD is a good idea, to avoid going in the stress eating direction. But also be sure to sleep and eat enough to handle what you're going through--it IS stressful, and might be for a while.  It's great that you have SLD to protect you from the long term effects of such a time. If my experience is any indicator, you will soon fill your home again with books and treasures, and appreciate them more for having lost some.  I wish you strength and blessings.  Z.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: chrianna on August 18, 2006, 12:11:40 PM
WOW, i hope things let up for you two and kudos for keeping up with your dosing in the middle of all that!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: frenata on August 18, 2006, 03:15:01 PM
Aw, Rabin, that sucks so hard! The flood, not the weight loss. I'm a terrible packrat (I console myself that all the historical artifacts in the world are the work of terrible packrats). A flood or fire is a nightmare to me.

I was actually thinking about the relationship between trauma and appetite today.

My stupid little story: I had an all-day meeting today in the Museum of Science in Boston. They bused us in and, for two hours, we had a business meeting in a conference room. Then we were given the rest of the day to play in the museum. (Yes, I do like the company I work for). Because I'm a museum junkie, I skipped the lunch buffet and went right to the museum.

So, they load us on the bus to go home at 3pm, and it's been all day and all I've had is my oil, a sliver of banana bread with creamcheese and a cup of coffee. Thanks to SLD, I'm doing pretty good, but I'm peckish (and thirsty!). I turn on my cellphone, check my messages for the day...and there's a morning message from my stepmother just asking me to call back. Bad. My stepmother's not chatty and my dad's been in and out of the hospital for pneumonia lately.

Cut to the chase: he's fine, it was something trivial. But it was several hours before I talked to her, and I totally lost my appetite for that time. Couldn't imagine eating. And I'm not the emotional type. Made me think of upset vs. appetite, and the history and mechanism of grief/trauma/fear/emotion.

Does strong emotion lower setpoint? Does it give the animal permission not to hunt or gather for a while, because it has other things to deal with?
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: Rabin the Cat on August 18, 2006, 03:18:35 PM
Weight from the doctor's office today- 213.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: BarbH on August 18, 2006, 03:44:15 PM
Been wondering where you were.  Sorry it was someplace unpleasant.   When you look back on this crisis you'll always add, "but the good news was we kept on losing weight through it all".  I'm glad you have insurance.  My next door neighbor's house flooded and they now have a wonderfully updated basement & first floor.  The 2nd floor was the only space where furniture was not floating.   Your patience & perseverance will be called to task.  Good luck - BarbH

Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: Rabin the Cat on October 06, 2006, 09:50:57 PM
Weight today was 210. I have been doing some serious stress eating, but simply cannot eat the amount of food I used to eat. Today, I braved the scales for the first time in almost a month. The verdict? 210, three pounds lower than my last weigh in.

SLD- it works.

I sent a PM to a newb with a question about hypothyroidism and she asked my method. In case anyone else wonders, I'll post what I wrote back to her here.

I'm a classic SLD gal. My husband and I started with two tablespoons twice daily and have rarely varied from that. I've had periods as long as three weeks when I lost no weight. I've had days when I was still very hungry and full of cravings. But overall, the net effect has been lowered appetite and lowered ability to cram myself full to bursting. Same for my mate. I did play around with my oil types some, but found nothing that was as effective for me as simple ELOO. Husband settled on canola. We've not tried sugar water as he is diabetic and I have hypoglycemia.

We take oil upon rising, then wait at least one hour or very often more till eating or drinking anything besides water, which means toothpasteless brushing in the mornings. We stop eating around 4-5 each evening, take the oil an hour or quite often two hours later, then eat again an hour or so after that. Not every day works out this way- sometimes we eat out in the evening and skip the second dose. I will sometimes lower my second dose to one TBS if I'm feeling quite full. I expect to drop to a lower dose regularly at around 190 or so. We shall see.

What else? Let's see, we drink quite a bit of water, keep junk food out of the house, eat very little processed sugar (and when I do I make darn sure it's yummy home made something, not crappy store cookies!), and deprive ourselves of absolutely nothing, as that way lies failure for me at least. So I'm learning about portion control, but SLD is helping me learn by making it so I simply cannot eat a second helping of pasta. All those diet tricks I've been hearing and been unable to make use of for years really work, I'd just never had the tools to make them work for me before. SLD is my tool.

I have not "exercised" as such for about a month, but I do feel better when I get a mild sweat on about 30 minutes a day. I'm still love my DDR, but for various reasons have not had as much chance lately to do it.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: down to 210 from 242 (posted October 6, 2006)
Post by: BarbH on October 07, 2006, 05:00:09 AM
I'm really happy for you.  Your patience and diligence is certainly paying off.  I'll always remember your helpful advice when i first came here and it's nice to see that you are still sharing that calm and sensible insight into this amazing tool.  Thanks again.  BarbH
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: down to 210 from 242 (posted October 6, 2006)
Post by: Jenn on October 07, 2006, 07:13:06 AM
Rabin the cat,
   I am so happy to hear about your progress.  Losing weight is really difficult for so many people, seeing you and your husband sticking by it and watching your ticker move closer to your goal is an inspiration.  You and he will become another success story on this board in no time. 

I like hearing that you try to stay away from sugar and do try to watch portions etc, it is a reality that sld reduces appetite, but we still need to pay attention closely to our eating habits.  I am afraid that a lot of newcomers to the diet may not quite understand that and feel that SLD does not work because they continue to have bad nutritional habits, and wonder why it may not work.
  SLD too, make me able to do those little "diet tricks" with ease.  I had quit my oil for about 3 weeks and kept note of how I felt.  It is certain that without SLD , I can not control my eating habits the same way.  Now I am back on, 2 pounds down and here to stay.

cheers
Jenn
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: SLD works when life is in crisis mode.
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on October 07, 2006, 07:37:32 AM
Weight today was 210. I have been doing some serious stress eating, but simply cannot eat the amount of food I used to eat. Today, I braved the scales for the first time in almost a month. The verdict? 210, three pounds lower than my last weigh in.

SLD- it works.

... snip ....

But overall, the net effect has been lowered appetite and lowered ability to cram myself full to bursting. Same for my mate. I did play around with my oil types some, but found nothing that was as effective for me as simple ELOO. Husband settled on canola.

... snip ....

What else? Let's see, we drink quite a bit of water, keep junk food out of the house, eat very little processed sugar (and when I do I make darn sure it's yummy home made something, not crappy store cookies!), and deprive ourselves of absolutely nothing, as that way lies failure for me at least. So I'm learning about portion control, but SLD is helping me learn by making it so I simply cannot eat a second helping of pasta. All those diet tricks I've been hearing and been unable to make use of for years really work, I'd just never had the tools to make them work for me before. SLD is my tool.

I have not "exercised" as such for about a month, but I do feel better when I get a mild sweat on about 30 minutes a day. I'm still love my DDR, but for various reasons have not had as much chance lately to do it.

Very well said, kind of captures the whole essence of things in one post.


Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: down to 210 from 242 (posted October 6, 2006)
Post by: Rabin the Cat on October 08, 2006, 03:33:23 PM
Thanks, Stephen.

I have this post that was supposed to go somewhere else, but when I hit post, I was timed out (I'm at work and only set the log in for an hour) and now I can't find the thread I was responding to. Hate to waste any of my brilliant prose, so I might as well put it here!

I'm getting asked rather frequently if I've lost weight as I love clothes and am buying new ones and wearing fitted shirts again (Yes, my boob and waist measurements are significantly different from one another now.)

I say "I take olive oil twice daily to suppress my appetite and change my set point. My body wants to be thinner now". Then if they're interested, I tell them about the book. If it's a friend, I offer to email info on SLD, then share the link to here and share an Amazon link to the book.

If it's a really good friend, I loan one of my books!

Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: down to 210 from 242 (posted October 6, 2006)
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on October 08, 2006, 05:12:04 PM
Thanks, Stephen.

I have this post that was supposed to go somewhere else, but when I hit post, I was timed out (I'm at work and only set the log in for an hour) and now I can't find the thread I was responding to. Hate to waste any of my brilliant prose, so I might as well put it here!

I'm getting asked rather frequently if I've lost weight as I love clothes and am buying new ones and wearing fitted shirts again (Yes, my boob and waist measurements are significantly different from one another now.)

I say "I take olive oil twice daily to suppress my appetite and change my set point. My body wants to be thinner now". Then if they're interested, I tell them about the book. If it's a friend, I offer to email info on SLD, then share the link to here and share an Amazon link to the book.

If it's a really good friend, I loan one of my books!



Buying the new shirts was a big step for me, including, for the first time in my life, buying "trim fit" shirts from Lands' End.

Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: Rabin the Cat on October 14, 2006, 06:10:24 PM
I went out to dinner tonight wearing a size 16 skirt and a fitted top. My husband couldn't keep his hands off me and wouldn't stop complimenting me, my FIL told me I looked gorgeous and my MIL told me my outfit was adorable.

So sweet!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: SILENT on October 14, 2006, 06:19:53 PM
That had to make your night  :D
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: TalkingRat on October 14, 2006, 06:30:14 PM

And all well deserved!!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: saggi girl on October 14, 2006, 06:40:34 PM
Wow, that is great!  Woo hoo!  Sexy lady!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: BarbH on October 15, 2006, 04:26:35 AM
WOW!  That's great.  I can only recall faded memories of size 16 anything.   Good job!!!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: frenata on October 15, 2006, 05:04:55 AM
Check in more often, Rabin. Your steady progress is inspirational.

Hey, you're the one that downs your oil with fizzy water, yes? I've been doing that on vacation because it's conveniently to hand, and I'm finding it makes the oil go down easier. I'm thinking of staying with it when I get home -- it certainly doesn't seem to have dampened your appetite suppression any.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: Stephen M (Ethesis) on October 15, 2006, 11:18:50 AM
Check in more often, Rabin. Your steady progress is inspirational.

Hey, you're the one that downs your oil with fizzy water, yes? I've been doing that on vacation because it's conveniently to hand, and I'm finding it makes the oil go down easier. I'm thinking of staying with it when I get home -- it certainly doesn't seem to have dampened your appetite suppression any.

That is a good observation and a neat experiment.
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: girljedi on October 15, 2006, 01:08:10 PM
WOW!!  I'd love to be a 16!  I think I'd dance in the aisle of the store if I had to go back and get a 16!!!!

I'm so proud of you, Rabin!  Way to go! :D
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: arcade150 on October 15, 2006, 02:33:09 PM
Congratulations!!
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: lvivianka on October 15, 2006, 05:51:16 PM
Congratulations! what a wonderful feeling - may we all look and feel like that.  Praise to OIL...
Title: Re: Rabin the Cat: a size 16 skirt and a fitted top (posted October 14, 2006)
Post by: Jenn on October 16, 2006, 08:11:39 AM
rabin the cat,
  It is your story about you and stink ape that I repeated to my husband so much that he decided to try SLD.
Thanks for all of your stories.
Hey...he wouldn't do this by seeing my progress... :roll:

Jenn